IND F80 M3 / F82 M4 wheel fitment compilation thread

[PNF]

Thanks for great info and testing.

I'm a newbie, but I havent seen the LMr test yet.

I am thinking of LMr, 19x9.5 / 19x10.5 setup (if it exists) for F80M, I have no idea what offsets I need to get, but it seems that I need to get something like +26 in front and +35 in the rear?

Does this sound right at all? If not, would you shed some light and recommend the size I should go for? I will not be using spacers.

Thanks

EDIT: Forgot to ask. How about TPMS? Can we get it or we have to get it from OEM dealer.

[IND-Distribution]

Originally Posted by PNF

Thanks for great info and testing.

I'm a newbie, but I havent seen the LMr test yet.

I am thinking of LMr, 19x9.5 / 19x10.5 setup (if it exists) for F80M, I have no idea what offsets I need to get, but it seems that I need to get something like +26 in front and +35 in the rear?

Does this sound right at all? If not, would you shed some light and recommend the size I should go for? I will not be using spacers.

Thanks

EDIT: Forgot to ask. How about TPMS? Can we get it or we have to get it from OEM dealer.

The sizes you're looking at will be spot on! The trouble is, LM-R wheels are not currently available in those widths and offsets in a 19" BMW fitment- I am working on a solution to this now.

I can provide TPMS as part of a wheel and tire package. I'll shoot you a private message.

[zosoboogie]

Just picked up a set of BBS F1 wheels and I have a question...For the fronts can a 265/35/19 tire fit instead of a 255/35/19? I would like to get the Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 tires and they make a 265 for the fronts and a 275 for the rear...Would that work?

[PNF]

Thanks!!!

I cant wait to buy!!!! If you know what I mean.. I am just stuck on what spec to buy. I am worried that the wheels I buy wont fit.

I want my car be ready on the day I pick it up!!!! hahahaha.. yes.. I am that desperate.

Together with front Grills / side grill too.. (I'll take them)

Please shoot me a good package price for wheel/tire/TPMS/grill/side grill. Thanks


PS. I will use spacers if absolutely needed. I dont really like spacers...

[GregW / Oregon]

Ilia, Are there extended lug bolts available for say 12mm spacers yet, or just studs?

[kitw]

Originally Posted by GregW / Oregon

Ilia, Are there extended lug bolts available for say 12mm spacers yet, or just studs?

Lugs are the same as the F30, so there should be.

[JL M3]

Very informative thread - thanks! Have you tried 10" on the front? Would love to know the fitment and ideal offset.

[PrimeBMW]

I am sure there are also folks interested in square set ups for the track. Let us know....

[Todd]

+1

Originally Posted by JL M3

Very informative thread - thanks! Have you tried 10" on the front? Would love to know the fitment and ideal offset.

[MaynardZed]

Would be nice if there was some front wheel / tire combo that would help to reduce that awful OEM wheel gap. So far these examples seem to accentuate it. Maybe higher profile tire in front? Trying to find a way around spring change.

[AMPowerJ]

Originally Posted by MaynardZed

Would be nice if there was some front wheel / tire combo that would help to reduce that awful OEM wheel gap. So far these examples seem to accentuate it. Maybe higher profile tire in front? Trying to find a way around spring change.

That's what I am thinking about too. The OEM front tire is 26" in diameter. If you put a 265/35 on the front diameter goes up to 26.3" or 275/35 for a square setup and the diameter is 26.6".

[IND-Distribution]

Originally Posted by GregW / Oregon

Ilia, Are there extended lug bolts available for say 12mm spacers yet, or just studs?

Macht Schnell makes extended lug bolts, which are available through IND.

Originally Posted by kitw

Lugs are the same as the F30, so there should be.

Originally Posted by JL M3

Very informative thread - thanks! Have you tried 10" on the front? Would love to know the fitment and ideal offset.

Originally Posted by PrimeBMW

I am sure there are also folks interested in square set ups for the track. Let us know....

I'd love to use a 10" wheel up front, but this is something that will be more useful once more cars have camber plates installed. We can use a normal camber setting with a 10" wide wheel, but I think that the extra negative camber will give a bit more freedom in using a lower offset wheel, a wider tire, and will generally allow for a more friendly track combo.

I have some camber plates in development now with one of the leading suppliers- stand by.

Originally Posted by MaynardZed

Would be nice if there was some front wheel / tire combo that would help to reduce that awful OEM wheel gap. So far these examples seem to accentuate it. Maybe higher profile tire in front? Trying to find a way around spring change.

Originally Posted by AMPowerJ

That's what I am thinking about too. The OEM front tire is 26" in diameter. If you put a 265/35 on the front diameter goes up to 26.3" or 275/35 for a square setup and the diameter is 26.6".

I would not suggest using a taller tire, as you're very likely to rub through the fender liner. Tall tires do not work well on newer chassis BMWs as the wheel well openings are very carefully sized from the factory.

[txgrown]

Do you have to change to studs when you install spacers? Also, what size spacers will just line up the wheel with the fenders?

[htran797]

Originally Posted by Ilia@IND

IND Distribution has been dedicated to the BMW M car since the companys inception, and through nearly a decade of commitment have done everything possible to learn the secrets of BMW M to a science. We have explored every aspect of BMWs marvelously engineered machines, and work tirelessly to ensure that our client base is always at the forefront of available information.

Today, we are proud to announce that in cooperation with BBS North America and Falken Tire we have made the first critical steps to understanding the M3/M4s wheel well packaging, and in turn the available space we can use to install wider wheels and tires.

While IND specializes in custom tailoring widths and offsets specifically to the client, this document will provide some good basic guidelines for what we've found works, and what does not. IND will work directly with BBS to develop custom width and offset wheels for the M3 and M4 in the near future, so please keep in mind that what you see here were existing applications and installed on the F80 for testing purposes only.

For those who have not been introduced to the BBS brand, please have a look at our photo tour of both the main German BBS manufacturing facility, as well as the more elusive tour of the German headquarters of BBS Motorsport:

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=917761

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=914945

BBS has been responsible for creating some of the best road and racing wheels in the world, and have contributed more to the modern racing wheel than any other wheel manufacturer. We can think of no better company to partner with, for this or any other project.


With all of this said, we are happy to present our findings to the M3/M4 community!


Late last night, one of the first F80 M3s in our area rumbled its way into our warehouse for the first ever test fit of performance wheels on this chassis. After several hours of measuring wheel well clearance, damper position, and the shape and packaging of the cars brake system, we were finally ready to move on to the good stuff- actually test fitting wheels!

A few basic cliff notes are in order, before we get into the details of our findings:

• Please keep in mind that IND custom tailors each set of wheels we sell to each client we have, and that the information below should serve only as basic guide lines.
• We're happy to say that the OE brakes easily clear 18", 19", and of course 20" wheels. This car should accept a wide range of wheels and tires both for the track and the street!
• We're also happy to announce that this car can easily accept very wide wheels! Thus far we've focused on 9.5" wide front wheels, and 10.5" wide rear wheels.
• We've found that a 9.5" wide front wheel with a +27 offset, and a 10.5" wide rear wheel with a +35 offset will be very flush fitment on the F80 chassis, giving the car an aggressive stance for a good basic setup.
• We've also determined that a 275/30/19 front tire and 295/30/19 rear tire are a small 2% smaller in rolling diameter than the tires originally provided by BMW, and are a great fit and sizing combination for both appearance and performance.

The M3, with IND's custom painted engine cover.



Installing our Macht Schnell stud conversion kit.



Measuring maximum caliper diameter.



Our test subjects for the night.



The BBS RE wheels, mounted on our client's F80 M3. These were a good fit in front when spaced to a +27 offset, and just a touch too flush in the rear, at a +30 offset.



Wheel fitment close ups of the BBS RE wheels. You can see that the 9.5" wide wheel works perfectly with a +27 offset, but the 10.5" wide wheel should be just a touch higher offset for a great fit.






The BBS FI wheels. At a 9.5" front width with a +26 offset, the front FI fit nearly perfectly. The 10.5" +28 rear wheel was too aggressive.


Front brake clearance shots of the 19" BBS CH-R wheels. Plenty of space!


Front and rear brake clearance shot of the 18" BBS FI wheels, again showing available space.





We will continue to update this thread as we learn more about these amazing new machines. All of us at IND are absolutely thrilled to begin to study, analyze, and develop the M3 and M4 to their fullest potential.

I have a set of hre c21 19x8.5+30 and 19x10+27. Do you know if this would work with the m4?

[/// M sa]

What will the 295/30/19s in the rear and 275/30/19s on my stock wheels look like?

[F80M]

Please help, will BBS LM 19x10 et25 and 19x11 et25 fit F80M with OEM brake? How about MCCB? What tire sizing should I go with?

Thanksj-

[AMPowerJ]

Originally Posted by -StanceCity-

Please help, will BBS LM 19x10 et25 and 19x11 et25 fit F80M with OEM brake? How about MCCB? What tire sizing should I go with?

Thanksj-

Front would work but the rear will not. You would need an offset around et38 for the 19x11.

[DangerousTacos]

I think the FI is one of my favorite aftermarket wheels for the F80 right now. Any chance of seeing RS-GTs on an F8X, or do they make one that will fit yet?

[RowanBuds]

Originally Posted by Ilia@IND

Front brake clearance shots of the 19" BBS CH-R wheels. Plenty of space!

Ilia, do you know if these would clear the CCBs?

[mdrobc13]

+1 subscribed

[Fatandre]

I was wondering if I can fit 18" oz split rims over those brakes

[F80 M Freak]

can you guys give some numbers for 18"? Thanks alot!