BMW M3 / M4 Reviews Compilation

[SPACEMANRICK]

Just turn on the Youtube English closed captions for the video.......it translates it over to perfect English.

[myzmak]

...and a review from India.

http://www.zigwheels.com/reviews-adv...-review/18628/

Best line:

The M3 gets two choices of gearboxes internationally, a six-speed manual and a 7-speed DCT. The former is majorly a demand in the USA while most of the world including India will get the DCT. Choosing a slower manual ’box reminds the Americans of their masculinity according to those who do not wish to be named.

As a MT preferring non-American, I am still chuckling over that one.

Aside from that, not a whole lot of new info......

[deletedelete]

Originally Posted by Careful Driver

In the second part of the review, when he is driving in the race track, you can clearly hear the downshifts. My god, they sound so much worse than how the same sounded in the outgoing M3. Essentially, when you downshift in DCT S5 in that car, people would move out of your way. You could use it another means of warning pedestrians in parking lots to be careful and to let them know you were coming It was such a mean sounding engine. This one sounds like crap in that aspect (or other aspects).

I think all reviews are the same :

- Faster
- More efficient
- More modern
- Better performance
- Less thrill
- Worse sound
- Less/Lack of soul

But wasn't this what everyone speculated and agreed on all this time, all these months, thousands of threads and tens of thousands of posts? So there is no surprise.

Agreed. Downshifting is great with the v8 but I'd be embarrassed to downshift in the f8x. Look out everyone it's a really large fart can civic with roundel on it. Heard a e46 the other day and those aren't bad so I don't know how BMW messed up so much with the sound on the new one.

[Carl L]

Originally Posted by Prowess Symphony

Agreed. Downshifting is great with the v8 but I'd be embarrassed to downshift in the f8x. Look out everyone it's a really large fart can civic with roundel on it. Heard a e46 the other day and those aren't bad so I don't know how BMW messed up so much with the sound on the new one.

Have you heard it in person?

Also, clearly sound is highly subjective since you aren't really a fan of the E46 M3's sound. I think it sounds absolutely tremendous.

[ASAP]

Originally Posted by myzmak

...and a review from India.

http://www.zigwheels.com/reviews-adv...-review/18628/

Best line:



As a MT preferring non-American, I am still chuckling over that one.

Aside from that, not a whole lot of new info......

LOL, that is dead on!

[myzmak]

Originally Posted by Carl L

Have you heard it in person?

Also, clearly sound is highly subjective since you aren't really a fan of the E46 M3's sound. I think it sounds absolutely tremendous.

....tough though it is, remember: don't feed the trolls....

(and of course you are right: anyone judging sound based on youtube/iphone/go pro videos and making harsh conclusions is ridiculous. Lets all wait until we experience it ourselves before we come up with firm opinions.....but that would just make sense, wouldn't it?)

[deletedelete]

Originally Posted by Carl L

Have you heard it in person?

Also, clearly sound is highly subjective since you aren't really a fan of the E46 M3's sound. I think it sounds absolutely tremendous.

I haven't heard it in person. I'm somewhat of a fan of the e46 sound but it's no comparison to the v8 and neither can a turbo i6 compare either. When I downshift it turns heads and I get a thumbs up from pedestrians when a f8x downshifts pedestrians are just going to hear another fart can. I don't know how you think it sounds tremendous. I will certainly be one of the first to test drive it as soon as it comes out and I'm hoping I'm surprised when I hear it in person since that or the M2 will most likely be my next car.

[Carl L]

Originally Posted by Prowess Symphony

I haven't heard it in person. I'm somewhat of a fan of the e46 sound but it's no comparison to the v8 and neither can a turbo i6 compare either. When I downshift it turns heads and I get a thumbs up from pedestrians when a f8x downshifts pedestrians are just going to hear another fart can. I don't know how you think it sounds tremendous. I will certainly be one of the first to test drive it as soon as it comes out and I'm hoping I'm surprised when I hear it in person since that or the M2 will most likely be my next car.

I said the E46 M3 sounded tremendous. I have not heard the F8x in person so I am reserving judgment.

[Jockey]

Originally Posted by Prowess Symphony

I haven't heard it in person. I'm somewhat of a fan of the e46 sound but it's no comparison to the v8 and neither can a turbo i6 compare either. When I downshift it turns heads and I get a thumbs up from pedestrians when a f8x downshifts pedestrians are just going to hear another fart can. I don't know how you think it sounds tremendous. I will certainly be one of the first to test drive it as soon as it comes out and I'm hoping I'm surprised when I hear it in person since that or the M2 will most likely be my next car.

So you're knocking the sound of one turbo I6 when you have no problem blindly buying another turbo I6 made by the same company?

That makes sense.

[Never Convicted]

Originally Posted by Jockey

So you're knocking the sound of one turbo I6 when you have no problem blindly buying another turbo I6 made by the same company?

That makes sense.

If he doesn't get thumbs ups from pedestrians, his life will be empty. Kinda makes you wonder when he'll publish his manifesto on Youtube.

[deletedelete]

Originally Posted by Jockey

So you're knocking the sound of one turbo I6 when you have no problem blindly buying another turbo I6 made by the same company?

That makes sense.

Uh I haven't blindly bought anything. I'd thoroughly test drive the M4 and M2 multiple times including going for rides with local CCA members as I did with my e92 and also thoroughly test drive the competition. I'm not blindly buying anything nor basing my purchasing decision on sound alone so I'm not really sure what you're talking about.

[Jockey]

So what makes you think that a 3.0L turbo I6 from BMW M-division is going to sound any different than the another 3.0L turbo I6 from BMW M-division?

I think you're setting yourself up for disappoinment.

[paddy335]

Originally Posted by Carl L

Have you heard it in person?

Also, clearly sound is highly subjective since you aren't really a fan of the E46 M3's sound. I think it sounds absolutely tremendous.

The E46 M3 is one of the great sounding everymans cars IMO. Absolutely love that mechanical chuntering and hashing soaring to a sweet howl at high revs. Beautiful.

[paddy335]

Just read the review, done during press drives at a track in Portugal/Spain I think.

Some of the reviewers notes:

- Sensational brakes (CCB)
- Epic on track, beautifully balanced, sweet chassis, loved the steering
- Monumentally fast
- Hasn't had as much fun in a real world car other than....Porsche Cayman/911
- Loved the action of the 6MT but preferred the DCT for the car
- "One of the most accomplished cars I have ever driven"
- "One of my top 5 cars of all time"

Didn't even mention the sound

Pretty much his only negative: worried how the Michelin PSS would go on the sh*tty coarse chip roads down this way.

[ss134]

Originally Posted by paddy335

Just read the review, done during press drives at a track in Portugal/Spain I think.

Some of the reviewers notes:

- Sensational brakes (CCB)
- Epic on track, beautifully balanced, sweet chassis, loved the steering
- Monumentally fast
- Hasn't had as much fun in a real world car other than....Porsche Cayman/911
- Loved the action of the 6MT but preferred the DCT for the car
- "One of the most accomplished cars I have ever driven"
- "One of my top 5 cars of all time"

Didn't even mention the sound

Pretty much his only negative: worried how the Michelin PSS would go on the sh*tty coarse chip roads down this way.

Scans or link please

[myzmak]

Originally Posted by ss134

Scans or link please

+1

[paddy335]

Originally Posted by ss134

Scans or link please

Knew someone would say that ok I'll go buy a copy later

[ss134]

Originally Posted by paddy335

Knew someone would say that ok I'll go buy a copy later

[CrazyFrog]

Good post for me, newbie here.

[paddy335]

Pdf attached.
Can't put images in, work pc restrictions.

[solstice]

Thanks for posting. Nice to see some more MT comments. Seems like the only reason he prefers the DCT is because it has an extra gear. Weirdest reason this far...especially since with the TQ of the engine there is little to no need for short gearing. From the pictures it looks like the real reason could be age...not everyone is as hard core as Oregon Greg when the hair turns white

[ss134]

Originally Posted by paddy335

Pdf attached.
Can't put images in, work pc restrictions.

Thanks!