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Also please post pyrometer tire temps post session, I'm sure you track those in your log book. I have 14 years experience on track. You don't know what you're talking about. The latest PSS is ridiculously fast for a street tire. |
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and the base carrera is such a great 911! truly underrated. its fast on any turn tight or not haha. The m4 is a much heavier car on narrower rubber out back. if it were equipped with say 295's rear and 275's front i wonder how it will fair. I think for the cost savings over the base 911 you can afford another set of wheels and several sets of "shitty" tires.
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Excellent review! Like how he stated of he had more track time he could prob get the times down a bit more. This new engine is not for the timid. Very very impressed with the times!
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Love these type of videos. Kind of disappointed the M4 did not crack in to the 1:18's
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I also didn't say the pss was slow. I said that in extremely hot conditions in the summer months on tws in Texas they heated up very quickly and got greasy and wore extremely quickly. On average I picked up 2.xx seconds per lap with the re11 vs the pss. The pss were ok for the initial couple laps, but they got hot, slick and worn out quickly. I have zero doubt you're a better driver than me. I also don't think that the evo test was unfair. I do think that the m3 is hamstrung a bit by the tires, and would he significantly better to drive on track with sticker tires that can handle heat better. You're opinion is you're opinion, but I've never seen anyone track on pss here or compare them favorably *on track* in dry conditions to re11 or any other extreme summer. My aplogies to you if it seemed like I came on too strong, no disrespect meant. :twocents: Edit : anway, far off topic. Great test between two great cars. Thrilled with the feedback the m got Last edited by Black Gold; 07-31-2014 at 08:03 AM.. |
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The most recent PSS is way better than what came on my e92 M3. Michelin has improved the tire significantly. I agree the RE11 was better than the previous PSS. |
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The pss I ran were from probably 2 years ago, so sounds like things have changed since then. |
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If it's a base Carrera vs M4 then it's a mismatch.
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I don't know, the PSS just seem like the Ultimate compromise to me. Until I see AutoX guys grabbing these over RS3s/RE11s/Star Spec 2s - I'm going to say it's probably not a track worthy tire.
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Let's all of us cut the BS. The issue is money. We all want more for less!
If we had the money, there would be no discussion which car we would choose. Porsche C4S, Turbo S etc. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, |
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PSS are ok but it's the most overrated tire, IMO. Dunlop Sport Max Race (standard on 991 GT3) are more appropriate for track duty and can be driven on street. M4 did very well against what's considered the benchmark sports car and much more expensive.
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I was at the track last week I spoke to a guy with an M4 and he was having throttle oversteer issues too. He's had class wins in our local time attack series and is a skilled driver on track. It shouldn't be too much trouble once people start flash tuning these cars to get a more linear throttle, it bothers me that BMW puts such aggressive throttle map on the cars in the first place just so when people test drive cars they feel excessively powerful at part throttle.
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