Do you use the automatic start/stop function?

[RickFLM4]

Originally Posted by Railgun

What's puzzling?

I'm not talking about big picture in and of itself. What I'm talking about is a feature that's being disabled because of x, where x is a BS excuse.

It's one thing to not give a shit about the environment full stop, but it's another to not give a shit because it's inconvenient. I'm laughing as this thread is about the latter.

Then let's go ahead and call BS on everyone that has reasonable access to public transportation but doesn't use it because it is inconvenient while we're at it...

Not using a feature that is inconvenient and provides negligible financial or environmental benefit is not a BS excuse. It is rational thinking. No different than a lot of other things people choose to do every day.

[Andrew115]

Turned it off about 10k miles ago - forgot I had it till I saw this thread.

[Andrew115]

Originally Posted by RickFLM4

Then let's go ahead and call BS on everyone that has reasonable access to public transportation but doesn't use it because it is inconvenient while we're at it...

Not using a feature that is inconvenient and provides negligible financial or environmental benefit is not a BS excuse. It is rational thinking. No different than a lot of other things people choose to do every day.

Not sure I agree with you about everyone having access to public transit. Tons of rural space that do not have access at all.

[Lups]

If someone has accidentally pushed it, I freak out when the car stops.

[RickFLM4]

Originally Posted by Andrew115

Not sure I agree with you about everyone having access to public transit. Tons of rural space that do not have access at all.

I wasn't saying everyone has access ("... everyone that has...") and also don't see an issue with driving your car even if you have access. It was just an analogy... if inconvenience is a BS excuse not to use start / stop then it is also a BS excuse for those with access to public transportation not to use it.

[Bmwguy11]

Or just admit that there isn't really any global warming, climate change, and even if there was, we have no way of knowing the cause or if it can even be affected by man.

[guarnibl]

I use it. If I'm driving the car in a more sporty fashion I just drive in sport plus which disables it anyway.

[scott13]

Originally Posted by Railgun

What I'm talking about is a feature that's being disabled because of x, where x is a BS excuse.

It's one thing to not give a shit about the environment full stop, but it's another to not give a shit because it's inconvenient. I'm laughing as this thread is about the latter.

Yeah, you're right. It is a bit of a BS excuse for people to say that they don't like using the feature because it's annoying. But I do find it annoying. And I do believe that the environmental impact from not using it is minuscule at best. I'm more than happy to do lots of other things that have a much greater impact on the environment that I *don't* find annoying.

If you want to have some fun with it...I'd argue that the start/stop feature is in itself a BS solution on BMW's part. I'd be willing to bet that the impact of making the engine 1 mpg more efficient would far outweigh the impact of the auto start/stop feature. Going further, if car manufacturers really cared about the environment, they'd just stop making fossil fuel-based combustion engines entirely. But we all know that's just not going to happen any time soon.


Scott

[BTWoody]

This auto/stop start is the biggest and most useless thing in the entire world!

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by guarnibl

...in sport plus which disables it anyway.

Are you sure about this?

I don't think the engine setting has an impact on Auto Start-Stop on my DCT M4. Maybe it is different on 6MT .

[guarnibl]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

Are you sure about this?

I don't think the engine setting has an impact on Auto Start-Stop on my DCT M4. Maybe it is different on 6MT .

Maybe it's different on 6MT, or perhaps that's way the key was set? But yes, I'm sure that on my car when in Sport Plus, start-stop is disabled.

Edit:

If you are running the A/C, it's hot outside and the interior is hot as well, the ASS will not shut your engine off. If you are in sport or sport plus throttle settings the ASS will not shut off your engine off. If the engine is cold and/or the outside temperature is cold and the interior is cold, ASS will not shut your engine off. There are lots of variables on how ASS works.

Try adjusting your sport or sport plus throttle settings and see if that does the trick.

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by guarnibl

Maybe it's different on 6MT, or perhaps that's way the key was set? But yes, I'm sure that on my car when in Sport Plus, start-stop is disabled.

Edit:


Try adjusting your sport or sport plus throttle settings and see if that does the trick.

Sport+ definitely keeps Auto Start-Stop active on my DCT car, as you can see from the picture below I took coming back from work today. Engine is in Sport+ and the tacho needle in the "Ready" position, indicating that the engine has been switched off.

So either DCT and 6MT are programmed differently in that respect or you are doing something else preventing Auto Start-Stop from being active.

[guarnibl]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

Sport+ definitely keeps Auto Start-Stop active on my DCT car, as you can see from the picture below I took coming back from work today. Engine is in Sport+ and the tacho needle in the "Ready" position, indicating that the engine has been switched off.

So either DCT and 6MT are programmed differently in that respect or you are doing something else preventing Auto Start-Stop from being active.

What are your throttle settings ? Perhaps playing with those will make a difference.

Everything that I can read on the Internet though basically suggests I'm incorrect. I should have my car next week, I'll update then. I'm probably just forgetting.

Edit: seems like there's a ton of reasons why it won't work though. One of them is the temperature outside is above 95F/35C and the AC is on. This was literally every single day I was driving in Europe, it was INSANELY hot when I was there (nearly over 100 every day, including in the mountains and into Switzerland). I bet you that's the reason why Auto Start/Stop was disabled for me, not sport plus.

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by guarnibl

What are your throttle settings ? Perhaps playing with those will make a difference.

Where am I unclear ?

Both my post and the picture say the engine setting is in Sport+ (there is no such thing as a "throttle" setting )

Originally Posted by guarnibl

Everything that I can read on the Internet though basically suggests I'm incorrect. I should have my car next week, I'll update then. I'm probably just forgetting.

Edit: seems like there's a ton of reasons why it won't work though. One of them is the temperature outside is above 95F/35C and the AC is on. This was literally every single day I was driving in Europe, it was INSANELY hot when I was there (nearly over 100 every day, including in the mountains and into Switzerland). I bet you that's the reason why Auto Start/Stop was disabled for me, not sport plus.

Probably the A/C, try turning it off when you get to your car.

[guarnibl]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

Where am I unclear ?

Both my post and the picture say the engine setting is in Sport+ (there is no such thing as a "throttle" setting )

Probably the A/C, try turning it off when you get to your car.

Sorry I've been driving a 335 for the past eight weeks ! Lol

gotta be the temp/ac.

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by Railgun

Way to be pedantic.

Really ?

A bit facetious maybe . I did put a winky face beside my comment.

The thing is that on the F8X, the "Engine Dynamics" settings control more than just the throttle pedal to throttle body mapping as was the case on the E46 and E92 (The old "Sport" button). On the F8X, it also affects the anti-lag management, engine cooling and exhaust sound for instance.

From the Technical Deep Dive & Interview:

There are three driving modes: EFFICIENT, SPORT and SPORT PLUS. In terms of engine activity, do these simply alter the accelerator curve?

No. With an M automobile, racetrack use is always an essential factor. Here it is necessary in all cases to be able to control very high power outputs with great precision using the accelerator pedal. For us, this means that we would not even consider a mode in which a small pedal movement would produce a great leap in power. In such a case it would not be possible to produce a measured power output. Which is why we prefer to create a largely linear torque curve controlled by the travel distance of the accelerator pedal.

So what are the differences between the EFFICIENT, SPORT and SPORT PLUS modes?

In the SPORT and SPORT PLUS modes, the waste gates remain closed under partial load and the mass flow is routed through the turbines, to ensure that the turbo chargers are already rotating at a higher base speed even in standby. Moreover, certain special engine control functions are brought into play that accelerate activation of the turbo chargers. This means that the car responds more closely to the accelerator in SPORT and SPORT PLUS modes.

[danniexi]

leave it on.

it's nice for daily driving. definitely keeps the car quiet when in efficiency/comfort mode.

[omgwtfbbqm4]

Originally Posted by nicknaz

Yes, use it when I am in stop and go traffic or in a drive-thru

In a drive-thru with a long line is actually a great idea.

[dhoggm3]

I use it. Why not?

[boi222]

Believe it has to be in auto mode for auto-start to work so manual mode on dct won't work

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

Sport+ definitely keeps Auto Start-Stop active on my DCT car, as you can see from the picture below I took coming back from work today. Engine is in Sport+ and the tacho needle in the "Ready" position, indicating that the engine has been switched off.

So either DCT and 6MT are programmed differently in that respect or you are doing something else preventing Auto Start-Stop from being active.

What are your throttle settings ? Perhaps playing with those will make a difference.

Everything that I can read on the Internet though basically suggests I'm incorrect. I should have my car next week, I'll update then. I'm probably just forgetting.

Edit: seems like there's a ton of reasons why it won't work though. One of them is the temperature outside is above 95F/35C and the AC is on. This was literally every single day I was driving in Europe, it was INSANELY hot when I was there (nearly over 100 every day, including in the mountains and into Switzerland). I bet you that's the reason why Auto Start/Stop was disabled for me, not sport plus.

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by boi222

Believe it has to be in auto mode for auto-start to work so manual mode on dct won't work

Correct.

DCT has to be in D mode for ASS to be functional, as I posted here.

[Need4Speed_Motorsports]

This function is hilarious. I Have an exhaust on my on my m so every time that thing is on it sounds like im stalling from the out side lmao