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Overall great initial feedback considering the dramatic change.
Remember when the E92 was introduced, it was criticized harshly, now it's a masterpiece! |
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Car Magazine: "But first impressions leave me highly impressed but just a little cold."
^^this summarizes how I feel after reading the first batch of reviews. Ultimately I'll have to drive one myself though for a verdict. automotive magazines are so full of it that they really can't be trusted IMO |
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I for one am not worried about the steering feel comments. I have read multiple articles on the Ferrari 458 and F12 saying that the steering is utterly devoid of feel. But that it is sharp, very direct, accurate and easy to understand what the car is doing.
Isn't that what it's all about? Now granted, my track time rates about a 0.5 / 10 as far as experience. But I have not read a single review that said the steering compromises the car, or makes it difficult to understand what it's doing. I'm not so impressed by the diesel engine sound comments. I'm also a little scared by the ride comments considering they were in Portugal. Sounds like the active suspension is a must. |
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I don't think there are a lot of surprises here though. Interested to see if the new M continues to win every comparison test like the old one did. It seems like other manufacturers are starting to catch up and ever surpass The Ultimate Driving Machine. |
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05-09-2014, 09:06 AM | #97 |
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This quote hurt the most from Car magazine.
"on one side of the M3/M4 you’ve got the raucous 1-series M, which was a very old school kind of M car in the mould of the Z3M and Z4M; at the other end of the spectrum you’ve got the new twin-turbocharged V8 M5, a very new school kind of M car. The M3/M4 is most definitely a small M5, not a big 1-series M". People who have owned/driven all three cars the E9x M3, F10 M5 and 1series M will understand why I was hoping for the M4 to be a big 1M, not a small M5. |
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05-09-2014, 09:22 AM | #98 |
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Were any of the test cars equipped with the passive suspension? I don't think they were, but I could be wrong.
If the passive suspension results in a noticeably harsher ride than the E9x M3 exhibits with the passive suspension, I agree that's an additional reason to consider the active suspension with it's available "Comfort" setting. But so far I don't think we know if this is the case or not. |
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most encouraging thing is the universally positive praise of the new chassis design and set up. I don't think anyone is going to be complaining about power, and the new chassis should prove fun on the street and great on track.
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As a former Ferrari driver, I can tell you that Ferrari hasn't had decent steering feel since they abandoned manual steering (last ones were the F348 and F50). Newer ones are fun and fast cars, but badly lacking in this department. BMW to me hasn't had good feel since the E36 M3 (E46 had hydraulic but was already significantly more numb than its predecessor). As a Porsche owner, their change to electric in the last generation has been a huge backwards step. The industry as a whole is really in trouble in this area. I'm waiting for someone to make an electric rack as good as the best hydraulic (and many claim it should be possible to surpass that standard), but looks like it hasn't happened yet...
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Edmunds first drive of M3 and M4....."Think BMW has slightly lost its way? Think the new Mercedes-Benz C-Class has it rattled? Think again. The M3 is back, this time as a four-door with a twin-turbo six-cylinder, fabulous poise and balance. It's everything a fast, small sport sedan ought to be."
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TBH this thread is now becoming a bit frustrating - people are posting up captions from certain reviews that say a negative about the new cars but for every negative posted here from any of the reviews I can find another review that is extremely positive about the negative posted!! I am talking about the steering, response and sound primarily. I'll judge this car myself when I drive it.
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