Traded in the M4 on an F-Type R

[Fake News 2017]

Originally Posted by dr.mba

Beautiful. Definitely a nice upgrade in my opinion.

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It better be for the price

[Kief]

You'll be back...at least that's what happened to me!

I had my '16 Type-R for 9 months and came back to an '17 M3 ZCP. Traded my '15 M4 for the Jag (like you).

Overall the Jag was great and I loved it!!! Miss the 'ol raunchy Brit. It's actually a year ago this week that I got mine. No real big issues other than some sloppy exterior trim fit and finish and inferior infotainment. She's also one heavy girl! JLR have come a long way--don't listen to nay-sayers! Only true reasons why I got rid of it was b/c of the perception it created at my workplace and b/c of my auto-ADHD. I'm also a diehard BMW fanboy!

GL with it OP. You'll never get tired of listening to that beast and the locomotive pull!!! You also made it just in time b/c the '18MY is a bit of a let down IMO, aside from the updated infotainment system.

[TahoeM3]

Originally Posted by Kief

You'll be back...at least that's what happened to me!

I had my '16 Type-R for 9 months and came back to an '17 M3 ZCP. Traded my '15 M4 for the Jag (like you).

Overall the Jag was great and I loved it!!! Miss the 'ol raunchy Brit. It's actually a year ago this week that I got mine. No real big issues other than some sloppy exterior trim fit and finish and inferior infotainment. She's also one heavy girl! JLR have come a long way--don't listen to nay-sayers! Only true reasons why I got rid of it was b/c of the perception it created at my workplace and b/c of my auto-ADHD. I'm also a diehard BMW fanboy!

GL with it OP. You'll never get tired of listening to that beast and the locomotive pull!!! You also made it just in time b/c the '18MY is a bit of a let down IMO, aside from the updated infotainment system.

It's definitely a possibility...I'm a creature of habit and I've had so many BMWs it's going to be hard to switch. I'll admit I'm already uneasy about "leaving the fold." I think I'll enjoy the car more, but hopefully it won't be too weird to switch. The infotainment and nav is definitely better on the M4, but in reality I don't use it all that much so I'm hoping that won't bother me much.

[Gstone]

Kief and TahoeM3, I'm considering the convertible version. Why did you guys go with the coup? Any thoughts on the cons of the drop top?

[LAKERS333]

Originally Posted by NJ-M4

Yeah, the MPSS's are simply not up to the task. 285 Bridgestone RE71Rs are a huge improvement in back for stock cars, and 305 Mickey Thompson ET Street S/S's solve traction issues for 600 whp+ cars quite nicely.

Regardless, the F-Type is a great looking beast of a car. Enjoy!

How long do those RE71r's last for you in the rear? The MPSS stock lasted me 12k miles before replacing and im still on stock 255 in the front with 18k.

I've got the MPSS 295 35 19 now and its a good improvement although with cold temps even here in Cali they aren't too good in 1st/2nd until they warm up a bit. They'll stick in warm much better but with MDM mode you can still break traction easily.

[Kief]

Originally Posted by TahoeM3

It's definitely a possibility...I'm a creature of habit and I've had so many BMWs it's going to be hard to switch. I'll admit I'm already uneasy about "leaving the fold." I think I'll enjoy the car more, but hopefully it won't be too weird to switch. The infotainment and nav is definitely better on the M4, but in reality I don't use it all that much so I'm hoping that won't bother me much.

You'll get over it! Haha

[Kief]

Originally Posted by Gstone

Kief and TahoeM3, I'm considering the convertible version. Why did you guys go with the coup? Any thoughts on the cons of the drop top?

IMHO, the coupe is just so much more beautiful! And I'm not really into verts

[TahoeM3]

Originally Posted by Gstone

Kief and TahoeM3, I'm considering the convertible version. Why did you guys go with the coup? Any thoughts on the cons of the drop top?

I like both, but since this will be my daily driver, the coupe is more practical. The trunk on the convertible is REALLY small.

[Bizall]

Originally Posted by Kief

Only true reasons why I got rid of it was b/c of the perception it created at my workplace

What perception would that be?

[redpriest]

Originally Posted by Bizall

What perception would that be?

That he's a British villain?

[sraj]

Originally Posted by Kief

IMHO, the coupe is just so much more beautiful! And I'm not really into verts

The coupe looks better, but I found the rear visibility to be brutally bad. If you are in a warm weather climate, I would go for the convertible.

As far as not being into verts, to each his own, but for me my F83 with the top down is much more exhilarating than the fixed roof versions, and I drive it that way almost all the time.

[TahoeM3]

Originally Posted by sraj

The coupe looks better, but I found the rear visibility to be brutally bad. If you are in a warm weather climate, I would go for the convertible.

As far as not being into verts, to each his own, but for me my F83 with the top down is much more exhilarating than the fixed roof versions, and I drive it that way almost all the time.

This is true...the rear window on the coupe is small and the rear visibility is also worsened by a smallish rear-view mirror. I have driven the convertible with the top down, but not with the top up, so I'm not sure how it compares. On the plus side, I did get the "visibility pack" on mine, so that will help.

[Kief]

Originally Posted by Bizall

What perception would that be?

Not to jack the OP's Thread, but this explained my situation
Might Be Coming Back To The Fold http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1323991

[XT6Wagon]

Originally Posted by DL3

Looks nice & all the best but....Is Jag still affiliated with Ford? Thought I heard some group from India. Where are they assembled??

Jaguars are still designed and engineered in the UK. The V6/V8 engines are built by ford on a specialty line in a Ford engine plant. The 4cyl gas and diesel are built in a Jag/Landrover plant.

Note that many fail to understand, but the Jag DOHC 5.0L is a completely different engine than the Ford DOHC 5.0L.

[DL3]

Originally Posted by XT6Wagon

Jaguars are still designed and engineered in the UK. The V6/V8 engines are built by ford on a specialty line in a Ford engine plant. The 4cyl gas and diesel are built in a Jag/Landrover plant.

Note that many fail to understand, but the Jag DOHC 5.0L is a completely different engine than the Ford DOHC 5.0L.

Thanks 4 sharing your knowledge. Must admit with these so called companies it gets quite confusing with who's building what & where. still skeptical, not only with Jag.

[9SECDD]

Originally Posted by LAKERS333

How long do those RE71r's last for you in the rear? The MPSS stock lasted me 12k miles before replacing and im still on stock 255 in the front with 18k.

I've got the MPSS 295 35 19 now and its a good improvement although with cold temps even here in Cali they aren't too good in 1st/2nd until they warm up a bit. They'll stick in warm much better but with MDM mode you can still break traction easily.

Not as long as MPSSs. Probably 6k-8k. Don't really know for sure since I rotated them in and out with other tires I've tried.

RE71Rs are for the person who wants better traction at whatever the cost. They will wear faster. Also, they are definitely louder an not as good in heavy rain (although perfectly drive-able).

Of course, the absolute best tires for straight line traction are Mickey Thompson ET Street S/S's. Super sticky. You can floor it in 1st or 2nd and they freakin stick. Dont last long at all and you have to be much more careful in rain, but so worth it if you have a high power car and want ultimate traction.

[///F80M3]

Originally Posted by Jockey

Man, that's a beautiful car! I would take that car over a Porsche any day!

Here come the Porsche fanboys lol

[Ian1973]

Sweet car!! But why oh why did Jaguar make the decisions they did? Not that I can afford the top model, but why offer a manual and rear drive in the lesser performance models than neuter the bid daddy one with a crappy transmission and the added weight and blahness of AWD? Doesn't make sense to me.

[PodDoc]

Originally Posted by Ian1973

Sweet car!! But why oh why did Jaguar make the decisions they did? Not that I can afford the top model, but why offer a manual and rear drive in the lesser performance models than neuter the bid daddy one with a crappy transmission and the added weight and blahness of AWD? Doesn't make sense to me.

There was an article about this a while back. The R had too much issues with traction so they decided to go awd.

[XT6Wagon]

Originally Posted by Ian1973

Sweet car!! But why oh why did Jaguar make the decisions they did? Not that I can afford the top model, but why offer a manual and rear drive in the lesser performance models than neuter the bid daddy one with a crappy transmission and the added weight and blahness of AWD? Doesn't make sense to me.

the 2015 F-Type R coupe is RWD only. It wasn't viewed as a sports car, but rather a British muscle car by almost all of the media. Simply way too much power for the traction available made it thrilling, but scary. Also slow on the clock in measured tests.

Never mind AWD done right is great for performance.

as far as no manual? Well the last time a mainline performance model from Jaguar had a manual it was a XJS and it was viewed as the dumbest idea they could have had. Heavy, Slow, Terrible Feel were the key words for that gearbox. Even today a gearbox that lives behind a supercharged V8 is heavy and expensive. For the limited market that wants that in this price range, its simply not worth the R&D expense, then the massive certification costs across all the different nations that have their own requirements.

[Ian1973]

Yet GM has figured it out with the Z06, the Hellcats, the old GT500, certain Ferrari's. Both RWD only and manuals(well not the hellcats that I recall).

I personally would rather have an engaging drive than an ultimate performance experience that ticks so many other negative boxes.

[erind]

Congrats man . The Jag will not dissapoint you. I still drive the M4 but the jag has won me over.
That noise, tha f***** noise.