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08-12-2017, 09:45 PM | #1 |
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BMW M3 Competition Pack Faster than M4 GTS on Anglesey Track
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"It is rather curious but since the difference is so small, it could come down to human error or just a timing issue. Nevertheless, the M3 showed a great run on the Anglesey circuit, its lap time being impressive no matter how you look at it."
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We all know the problem, they didn't set it up right again.
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something something front splitter. something something rear wing.
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Different drivers different days does not mean much. This is just another BMWBlog click bait.
All else being equal, the M4 GTS will be faster on track than a CP M3. Period. That 1:40.40 time for the GTS comes from the Autocar 2016 best driver's car. During that same test, the M2 did a 1:44.4, which is 3.7 seconds slower than what Drivetribe achieved in their recent test of the M2. So not at an apples-to-apples comparison.
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08-13-2017, 06:25 AM | #7 |
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Other than that, this kind of thread are ridiculous.
Them magazine racecar driver do what they can to try to put the GTS In the shade. If you guys did visit some tracks and drive for real Insted of lay In bed watching cars.. Well then even you would understand. Just now I was at Nurburgring, did one whole day In a M4 CP, what a joke to even compare that to GTS. And to be faster...that guy who wrote that, what do he smoke? (This Is the M3 and latest version CP but still, what a joke, and to bring up M2) Last edited by Captain Unknown GT4; 08-13-2017 at 06:33 AM.. |
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08-13-2017, 08:51 AM | #8 |
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Well i would expect the M3 CP to be close to a GTS on that particular track as its a much smaller track. Im sure the GTS should still be faster and it was just a matter of a few small factors. You cant compare that track to Nurbugring, it wouldn't even be close for the M3 CP.
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No matter the track, long or short M4 CP Is way off the pace of a M4 GTS, way off!!
M3/4 CP and M2, Jesus ... Its like 3 race series below In terms of laptimes. Its so far of Its accually weird to read somthing like this BMW blogg. At this 3.1km track I do 1.25-26 Times In stock M4 GTS. Dream on, M3 CP and M2 no comptition for M4 GTS...what ever track. I been 2 Times now with M4 GTS. They drive time attack series here and belive me no M3/4 CP or M2 stock will never ever post 1.25 laps here. Last edited by Captain Unknown GT4; 08-14-2017 at 10:15 AM.. |
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^^^^I think the thread was made from a tongue in cheek perspective - of course the GTS is going to be faster, everywhere. That's why this is a little funny - no one would seriously suggest that the cars are truly comparable.
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08-14-2017, 01:15 PM | #14 |
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Regardless of same driver or not
-both GTS and M3 weigh about the same ~3600lbs -they have the same motor/tranny/steering -if the GTS is setup in street mode the aero on the GTS probably doesn't do much (it doesn't look like they hit very big speeds anyways) -CP suspension (valving) was modelled from the GTS. The car is capable, the lap time proves it.. Go M3!! |
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Here are your weight differences:
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...s-drive-review http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...ic-test-review -1% weight difference... in the noise (not even 100lbs) -10% hp diff.. again in the noise (we all know these cars are underrated anyways) -tuning doesn't change the fact that its the same physical motor/tranny/steering pretty sad that with KW CS suspension and cup 2 tires (off the shelf) and the car can't even turn a significant lap time. |
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Don't get me wrong, I am far from being "enamored" by the GTS, quite the opposite actually. But facts need to be straight, a stock CP M3 will not be able to keep up with an M4 GTS on track.
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50 hp.. buy yourself a tune/flash and you can get double that for a very reasonable cost.. Understand you're a facts/details guy but in general most of the special GTS go fast parts are marginal at best... best approach is to buy a used/salvage m4, strip it down and convert to track car.... |
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If so, I'd slap 12 of these for at least 90 hp.
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The GTS still needs a lot more tire IMO. More power isn't much good when you still can't put it to the ground, which is already a weak spot on the base car. It matters a lot less on a high-speed track like the 'Ring, but elsewhere it's a problem. BMW also needs to shift the weight to the rear, but I think it may be a design flaw with the platform.
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