03-22-2013, 07:44 AM | #23 |
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I would bet 3350-3450lbs. 3000-3200 just ain't happening this time around. 3200 goes back to e36 days.
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I for one a m done chasing that unicorn......... the bench racing unicorn that is....... I will drive what feels Great, I will tell you after having 4 Corvettes, numerous Camaros and a CTS...... the 3 Series in general is more fun and comfortable than all that I have driven. BTW affordable as well.
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03-27-2013, 03:04 PM | #26 |
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I think its cool that we get 420 hp as an option in the next CTS. Does it make me like the CTS a little more? Yup. Does it make me dislike the BMW more?. Nope
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03-28-2013, 12:39 AM | #27 |
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My thoughts on the engine are very interested to know more especially more about it being available in the upcoming ATS-V, which is a car that is projected to compete with the M3, C63, RS4 etc.
Now that the ATS has come along the CTS can graduate from this middle sized model to a proper mid-size saloon to compete with the 5 series, E-class, A6/S6, etc. The CTS V-sport model with the TTV6 (420hp) will likely be priced closer to the 535i, E350, or A6 3.0T...which is great value for the performance minded, 100hp more than its similarly priced rivals....leaving the CTS-V to compete for the market between the 550i & M5 or E550 & E63... |
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The 535i/3.0T will go against the regular CTS V6. The prices will be close just like the ATS vs 3-series. |
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If/when the ATS-V gets this engine, there will be more natural comparison. |
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You're far better off getting that 3900lbs C63 AMG with 445HP than a 3300lbs 415HP F80 M3. Come on, buddy ![]() |
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The new CTS-V will be worth a look. They're fixing much of the current gaudiness with the new iteration. I need to get something that will hold four adults (for business), by mid-2014, when the M5 pig approaches 70K miles.
I'm down to the S6, the new CTS-V, and the new M3. All should be similarly priced, and the M3 may be the cheapest. Likely the M3 will win out, but I'm amazed that the other two can be serious contenders on my list. That never used to be the case.
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Yes, generally considered as such. I'm including it because of my 4-adult seating requirement, and fortunately (for me) with the greater knee room in the new 3's, the new M3 will qualify!
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for this much money -- I would get the new corvette with manual transmission and call it a day. Unless the new M3 is 500hp and sub 3500 lbs, there is no way it can compete with the new vette.
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