Firmware Update to psdZ 61.x

[shawnsheridan]

Originally Posted by GlazierGlaze

Does 1 hour of labor make sense to do full software update? That seems extremely short from what I've heard.

That is short. Normally it is about 3 hours if nothing goes wrong.

[GlazierGlaze]

Originally Posted by shawnsheridan

That is short. Normally it is about 3 hours if nothing goes wrong.

I think that's what they're quoting me at cost to plug it in. Sounds like it will be there for a full day.

[packet.pilot]

Originally Posted by GlazierGlaze

I think that's what they're quoting me at cost to plug it in. Sounds like it will be there for a full day.

Wow, I haven't heard​ of other dealerships giving fair pricing like this. Paying an hour of shop time even at a dealership rate should be standard operating procedure.

[GlazierGlaze]

Originally Posted by packet.pilot

Wow, I haven't heard​ of other dealerships giving fair pricing like this. Paying an hour of shop time even at a dealership rate should be standard operating procedure.

These guys take care of me. Only recently found them. Happy I did.

[aboulfad]

Originally Posted by GlazierGlaze

Does 1 hour of labor make sense to do full software update? That seems extremely short from what I've heard.

yep, that's a bit on the short side, HU-NBT takes around 30-40mns, and given you were on a very old I-step, i bet all your ECUs will be udpated!

Just ask for the detailed report of the I-step update, it's usually many pages with details of every ECU's firmware (old, new). Insist you want the report...

[MaX PL]

I was charged 1.5 hours last week.

[GlazierGlaze]

Just got a screenshot of my car in my dealer's coding bay, looks like the software is showing ISTA/P version: 3.61.1.001

Does that seem right?

[aboulfad]

Originally Posted by GlazierGlaze

Just got a screenshot of my car in my dealer's coding bay, looks like the software is showing ISTA/P version: 3.61.1.001

Does that seem right?

What is it you are asking about, the number ? If yes, that is one of the latest software available for our cars.

[OhioRiderAaron]

Originally Posted by MaX PL

I was charged 1.5 hours last week.

Wait, we have to pay to have updates done?

New to the updating procedures so I apologize if that's standard method when updating BMW's.

[GlazierGlaze]

Originally Posted by OhioRiderAaron

Wait, we have to pay to have updates done?

New to the updating procedures so I apologize if that's standard method when updating BMW's.

I came from Audi and they were the same way unless there was a TSB out for the issue.

[GlazierGlaze]

Originally Posted by aboulfad

What is it you are asking about, the number ? If yes, that is one of the latest software available for our cars.

Awesome, so hopefully all of my ECUs etc. will be updated.

I saw something in an old software thread about the HUD changing to blue or something? Any truth to that?

[aboulfad]

GlazierGlaze , yes your HUD will get more visible colours, this is old news ... (since 56.x) but its nice.
OhioRiderAaron , BMW will update software under warranty for the stupidest reasons sometimes: iDrive issues, BT conn issues, ...

[al3xander]

Originally Posted by shawnsheridan

That is short. Normally it is about 3 hours if nothing goes wrong.

Any dealership quoting 3 hours of ahoptime for programming is gouging you.

The tech only has to set the car up for programming which will take 10-15 minutes tops and start the session then periodically check it to make sure nothing happened like a Module crashed or the session timed out but it's not like they have to babysit the car during the entire programming process.

[packet.pilot]

Originally Posted by al3xander

Any dealership quoting 3 hours of ahoptime for programming is gouging you.

The tech only has to set the car up for programming which will take 10-15 minutes tops and start the session then periodically check it to make sure nothing happened like a Module crashed or the session timed out but it's not like they have to babysit the car during the entire programming process.

What the tech has to do is, in some markets, moot, since per-sq-ft costs are rather high in some metro areas, and bay occupancy, not tech-cycles, are what's actually billed for.

...that said, if there's an observable trend with dealerships quoting folks lower than before, then perhaps that puts wind in the sails of speculation that BMW has given 'latest firmware on ECUs' a higher priority than before, possibly via subsidy etc.

We could be entering a new era where routine maintenance visits more often than not involve updates without request, and possibly even involve mandated updates irrespective of what customers' wishes are... and if we did enter a world that looked this way, it'd tip the scales on the piggyback-vs-bench-flash axis... </speculation>

[///Pip]

2 days later ... F020-17-03-503

Here are the differences I noticed

ASD
Less in your face
Not as loud
Very natural sounding
I'm hearing more interior rattling now !

ESP + Damper
A lot less of that jittery rebounds
I feel the car is more planted !

Steering
Not as heavy
More gradual

DCT
OMG !
Smooth smooth
This is the biggest difference IMO

Placebo
+/- 20% !

[aboulfad]

^^^ what was your previous Istep? Depending on that, I'd say placebo may be as high as 90%

[///Pip]

Originally Posted by aboulfad

^^^ what was your previous Istep? Depending in that, I'd say placebo may be as high as 90%

hahaha true !

It was the Blue Bar HUD.

I think v56

[GlazierGlaze]

Got the update I was a very old istep, from back in 2014.

-Car seems to put down power much better.
-Suspension seems way more planted
-Steering seems heavy but more feeling/less resistance to turn where I want
-Engine note seems throatier
-DCT is so much smoother
-No changes to iDrive/HUD - Colors are the same for me


Felt like car was riding on rails on way home, so much more responsive. Just had GTS DCT, Diff, Steering, and ZCP comp back coded along with all of my old coding, about to hop into the car to feel some more of the changes. Can't wait!

[skalberti]

Originally Posted by aboulfad

my wife did notice something different she said it sounds deeper, and I thought it was placebo effect. I had the window open (+1C), and revved the engined to 3krpm in neutral, it sounds deeper and some revmatching blips are more noticeable, but that I think is the new ASD.

All the above in S+ engine mode! The graph is auto generated by Esys.

I don't think its a placebo. I'm running 503 and i love the way my exhaust sounds. It has a nice deep growl at WOT. Love the sound of the cold start as well, it's loud. I have ASD disabled and I couldn't be happier with the exhaust note. Maybe this is why I keep reading negative posts about how the exhaust sounds on the older PSDZDATA?

[///Pip]

So ... just did the usual Coding on the car


The Following still work:

Turns On Left Tail-light (Inner Part) on with DRL
Turns On Right Tail-light (Inner Part) on with DRL
Turns On Left Tail-light (Outer Part) on with DRL
Turns On Right Tail-light (Outer Part) on with DRL

Door handle LEDs light up when engaged in Reverse
Separates Ambient Light Level and Instrument Cluster Light Level
Mirror Fold Delay = 0 Sec
Turns off radio and navigation when the driver door is opened
Auto-Start-Stop set to ‘Off’ at every startup

Activates ‘Easy Entry’


These no longer work:


Change the triple blinker blinks to any amount. (Value is XX + 1)
Video In Motion



I think VIM hasn't worked since v58.


Anyone got a solution for Blinker Amount ?


Cheers

[aboulfad]

Originally Posted by ///Pip

So ... just did the usual Coding on the car
These no longer work:


Change the triple blinker blinks to any amount. (Value is XX + 1)

I think VIM hasn't worked since v58.

Anyone got a solution for Blinker Amount ?
...

since i havent flashed all my ECUs, I have my coding still on since 59.3. VIM works on ID4, and blinker also does. I've checked the 61.0 cafd for FEM_BODY and the parameter BLINKZYKLEN_ANZAHL_TIPP is still there. Best you post on the thread http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1040273

[///Pip]

Originally Posted by aboulfad

since i havent flashed all my ECUs, I have my coding still on since 59.3. VIM works on ID4, and blinker also does. I've checked the 61.0 cafd for FEM_BODY and the parameter BLINKZYKLEN_ANZAHL_TIPP is still there. Best you post on the thread http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1040273

Yeah BLINKZYKLEN_ANZAHL_TIPP is still there but doesn't work anymore.

Will ask the other thread

Cheers