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      02-23-2017, 09:40 AM   #89
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Well, just because it is written, and written in more then one place, does not make it true. I think at one time it was assumed that when F-Series was getting ID5, it would be only different firmware instead of new G-Series Head unit Hardware, but that did not turn out to be the case, as F-Series ID5 got new Hardware.
Shawn,

What was the hardware change announced between Model 15 and 16 even tho still ID4? I know there was a nav hardware change in 16.
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What was the hardware change announced between Model 15 and 16 even tho still ID4? I know there was a nav hardware change in 16.
Sorry, I don't recall any ID4 changes.
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Sorry, I don't recall any ID4 changes.
Not the software but the hardware in a 16.

http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...hlight=2016+m4

"Improved Navigation Unit: new hardware, better performance, faster start-up of navigation and Voice Command, navigation map update over the air, more realistic presentation of city details"

Not sure how that would effect any retrofits.
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      02-23-2017, 03:01 PM   #92
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Not the software but the hardware in a 16.

http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...hlight=2016+m4

"Improved Navigation Unit: new hardware, better performance, faster start-up of navigation and Voice Command, navigation map update over the air, more realistic presentation of city details"

Not sure how that would effect any retrofits.
This is change from NBT to NBT2 EVO ID4.
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This is change from NBT to NBT2 EVO ID4.
Specifically with half that RAM of the one later installed from 07/16 onward for 2017 models, 2GB vs 4GB iirc, which is apparently "necessary" to run CarPlay with stability.

RUEKO is how I've seen this MY2016 variant referred to in the past.
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      02-24-2017, 09:40 PM   #94
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Specifically with half that RAM of the one later installed from 07/16 onward for 2017 models, 2GB vs 4GB iirc, which is apparently "necessary" to run CarPlay with stability.

RUEKO is how I've seen this MY2016 variant referred to in the past.
NBT2 EVO was designed exclusively for G-Series cars with BDC and ATM Modules. NBT2 "Rueko" stands for NBT2 "Legacy" and is a sort of hybrid unit intended to work in older Fxx with different car architecture like FEM/ZGW/CAS/FRM, and it includes both ID4 (2 Gb) and ID5 (4 Gb) versions.
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Also am i able to use carplay or screen mirroring? I have MY2016 f30 nbt evo
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Also am i able to use carplay or screen mirroring? I have MY2016 f30 nbt evo
No.
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Also am i able to use carplay or screen mirroring? I have MY2016 f30 nbt evo
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No.
However, those who already have iDrive 5 who currently have CarPlay can still use it if they switch to iDrive 6 Light. No clue about Android screen mirroring.
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Hey packetpilot , I might have f***ed up...

I have a 2016 M4 built in April 2016.

The dealer updated my i-Step to F020-17-03-502 and I know I have HU_NBT2.
The CAFD version is now CAFD_00001EF6_006_018_016.

I did some coding and tried to enable id6_light. Well, it didn't work as I still see the id5_plus_plus but the navigation stopped working... It's asking for a USB certificate or something like that...

I didn't think this little trick would brick my navigation...

Do you have an idea how to recover from this mistake?

Thanks.
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Hey @[packetpilot]Do you have an idea how to recover from this mistake?
I assume you've tried going back in and resetting the code to id5_plus_plus?

Edit: Whoops! I failed to note that you probably didn't even start with iDrive 5!

If that doesn't work, have you tried VO-coding the ICU back to the initial state ("code", not "code defaults"!!!)?
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Hey packetpilot , I might have f***ed up...

I have a 2016 M4 built in April 2016.

The dealer updated my i-Step to F020-17-03-502 and I know I have HU_NBT2.
The CAFD version is now CAFD_00001EF6_006_018_016.

I did some coding and tried to enable id6_light. Well, it didn't work as I still see the id5_plus_plus but the navigation stopped working... It's asking for a USB certificate or something like that...

I didn't think this little trick would brick my navigation...

Do you have an idea how to recover from this mistake?

Thanks.
How do you have iDrive 5 in a 16? Shouldn't it be 4? Did I miss where I could upgrade to 5 in my 16?
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You cannot go from ID4 to ID5 and much less to ID6.

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Hey packetpilot , I might have f***ed up...

I have a 2016 M4 built in April 2016.

The dealer updated my i-Step to F020-17-03-502 and I know I have HU_NBT2.
The CAFD version is now CAFD_00001EF6_006_018_016.

I did some coding and tried to enable id6_light. Well, it didn't work as I still see the id5_plus_plus but the navigation stopped working... It's asking for a USB certificate or something like that...

I didn't think this little trick would brick my navigation...

Do you have an idea how to recover from this mistake?

Thanks.
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      03-16-2017, 02:47 PM   #102
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Yup, I realize this now... thanks guys.

Will revert all my coding to original. Got excited and didn't do due diligence prior to start coding this...
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My17 isn't showing it either
Same here on a MY17. I'm not sure of build date as I'd have to go look at the car.
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Okay, I have coded everything back to stock settings and my Navigation shows up now, like before.

All is good, thanks again!
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Is there a way to change out the 5series G30 picture on the main screen with a 3series model? Not sure if a F80 is available, but maybe at least a F30? Should be a coding parameter, but after a first search, i found nothing applicable.

In the deeper car settings the pictures are correct, but not in the main menu...

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Is there a way to change out the 5series G30 picture on the main screen with a 3series model? Not sure if a F80 is available, but maybe at least a F30? Should be a coding parameter, but after a first search, i found nothing applicable.

In the deeper car settings the pictures are correct, but not in the main menu...
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In NBT2, look at FDL's BAUREIHE and BAUART.
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Is there a way to change out the 5series G30 picture on the main screen with a 3series model? Not sure if a F80 is available, but maybe at least a F30? Should be a coding parameter, but after a first search, i found nothing applicable.

In the deeper car settings the pictures are correct, but not in the main menu...
Depending on your software version, February and April releases came with additional chassis images.

Added Images:

View post on imgur.com

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Depending on your software version, February and April releases came with additional chassis images.

Added Images:

View post on imgur.com

I'm on v61.2 since yesterday and i think the mentioned parameters are correct. Maybe one of you guys can tell me exactly what should be set?Maybe based on the four examples?

Thanks!
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Hi everyone,

Have istep version
CAFD_00001EF6_006_018_014 for a 6/16 build f80 with idrive 5.0 onboard.

Doesn't have HMI_ID_VERSION option available, if dealer upgrade to latest istep CAFD_00001EF6_006_018_016, am I able to change to idrver 6 light?


Thanks
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Hi everyone,

Have istep version
CAFD_00001EF6_006_018_014 for a 6/16 build f80 with idrive 5.0 onboard.

Doesn't have HMI_ID_VERSION option available, if dealer upgrade to latest istep CAFD_00001EF6_006_018_016, am I able to change to idrver 6 light?

Thanks
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