New: Suntek Ultra (now has 10 year warranty)

[jwoo]

Unfortunately, I just got my car wrapped in Suntek, but just learned from their regional sales rep that they now have a new paint protection film (Suntek Ultra) that has a 10 year warranty. I hope this helps Suntek compete with xpel, because they really make an amazing product. It is much better (looks wise) than xpel in my opinion...

[Narmeen]

Originally Posted by jwoo

Unfortunately, I just got my car wrapped in Suntek, but just learned from their regional sales rep that they now have a new paint protection film (Suntek Ultra) that has a 10 year warranty. I hope this helps Suntek compete with xpel, because they really make an amazing product. It is much better (looks wise) than xpel in my opinion...

i am about to get my m4 clear bra'd and the guy did mention he has a new product Suntek ultra for $50 more and it has 10 year warranty. so i will go with that than. anyone here got suntek ultra already?

[Need4spd28]

I'm dying to know why this matters. Do any of us actually plan on keeping our cars for that long? Love my M3, but I know full well I'll love something else more in a couple years.

By the way, regular Suntek is terrific. It's all about the installer though in my opinion.

[Narmeen]

i got suntek ultra on all of front bumper, head lights, 1/3 of the hood, mirrors, and near back tires on the sides. 10 year warranty - only if that place closes down than i am screwed.

[mracer101]

Originally Posted by Need4spd28

I'm dying to know why this matters. Do any of us actually plan on keeping our cars for that long? Love my M3, but I know full well I'll love something else more in a couple years.

By the way, regular Suntek is terrific. It's all about the installer though in my opinion.

Lets see... I have a 96 NSX-T and 04 E46 M3 and they're still with me. So yeah, it depends on the owner. Unfortunately, I don't have any PPF on them but they're still good look after any wash and wax + polish.

[RobC2]

Originally Posted by mracer101

Lets see... I have a 96 NSX-T and 04 E46 M3 and they're still with me. So yeah, it depends on the owner. Unfortunately, I don't have any PPF on them but they're still good look after any wash and wax + polish.

Awesome cars! I would say that is not the norm on this forum however. If I had to guess, the average length of ownership is probably about 2.75 years.

[Arcades]

People gets XPel mostly because of the 10 year warranty but most every good, independent PPF installers would recommend Suntek over Xpel.

I have a friend that has Xpel Ultra and I can notice it immediately on his M3. I have Suntek PPF-C on my M4 and now the new Suntek Ultra on the Macan S and in both instances I cannot tell if they were on or not.

Suntek is glossier and looks better as well as the same thickness as Xpel Ultra. The only reason Xpel is "thicker" is because of the adhesive. I spoken a lot with my detailer about this and he is one of the best in Orange County. He would always recommend Suntek over Xpel, and as far as I can tell, other detailers or installers would also recommend the same if they aren't sponsored by Xpel.

Most cars these days won't get past 5 years, so the 10 year thing is more of a "just in case" sort of deal. Suntek Ultra so far looks good on the Macan S.

That being said however, there isn't anything wrong with Xpel. A PPF is still a PPF and as long as it is installed correct, if it is Suntek, Xpel, Nano or not, it would do it's job. It just depends if you want to a certain look or not.

[dkhm3]

Originally Posted by Arcades

People gets XPel mostly because of the 10 year warranty but most every good, independent PPF installers would recommend Suntek over Xpel.

I have a friend that has Xpel Ultra and I can notice it immediately on his M3. I have Suntek PPF-C on my M4 and now the new Suntek Ultra on the Macan S and in both instances I cannot tell if they were on or not.

Suntek is glossier and looks better as well as the same thickness as Xpel Ultra. The only reason Xpel is "thicker" is because of the adhesive. I spoken a lot with my detailer about this and he is one of the best in Orange County. He would always recommend Suntek over Xpel, and as far as I can tell, other detailers or installers would also recommend the same if they aren't sponsored by Xpel.

Most cars these days won't get past 5 years, so the 10 year thing is more of a "just in case" sort of deal. Suntek Ultra so far looks good on the Macan S.

That being said however, there isn't anything wrong with Xpel. A PPF is still a PPF and as long as it is installed correct, if it is Suntek, Xpel, Nano or not, it would do it's job. It just depends if you want to a certain look or not.

would the detailer be Rhino? I go there for all my cars.

[Arcades]

Originally Posted by dkhm3

would the detailer be Rhino? I go there for all my cars.

Actually it is Envious Detailing.

I was recommended Rhino though~

[Mistertmac]

I had Suntek put on the entire front end of my M4 the week I took delivery. Best option available here locally in Germany.
What prices do they charge in the US for Suntek these days?

[Arcades]

Originally Posted by Mistertmac

I had Suntek put on the entire front end of my M4 the week I took delivery. Best option available here locally in Germany.
What prices do they charge in the US for Suntek these days?

It depends on how much you are doing.

Including paint correction (which SHOULD be done by the way), around 1,500 or more. W/o paint correction, less than that. Any PPF can hide some scratch lines and stuff like that, especially on light colored cars but dark colored cars will show some anyway.

My M4 was more because the car required more paint correction, my Macan S wasn't nearly as much but I have known Envious Detailing for awhile and Eric did me a little favor. He pretty much does all my cars.

[SuckaGDog]

Anyone else has experience with the new Suntek Ultra version? I am trying to decide between the original film or the new one. My biggest concern is clarity and gloss. I've had the original film on my past two cars and it's been great. My installer offered me the ultra version for only $95 more so seeing if it's worth it or not. He hasn't done a car with the ultra film yet.

[Eric S]

suntek ppfc looks good and great, great gloss and clarity
suntek ultra has a ever so slightly more grain to the film, hardly noticeable, not noticeable unless you have suntek ppfc right next to it.
ultra is more clear on white where ppfc has a tad more "yellowness" to it.

Cant go wrong with either one, might as well get the ultra for the longer warranty against delamination, yellowing, peeling (not lifting edges), etc. Expect to pay about 10% more for ultra, its more expensive than ppfc

[SuckaGDog]

Originally Posted by Eric S

suntek ppfc looks good and great, great gloss and clarity
suntek ultra has a ever so slightly more grain to the film, hardly noticeable, not noticeable unless you have suntek ppfc right next to it.
ultra is more clear on white where ppfc has a tad more "yellowness" to it.

Cant go wrong with either one, might as well get the ultra for the longer warranty against delamination, yellowing, peeling (not lifting edges), etc. Expect to pay about 10% more for ultra, its more expensive than ppfc

Thank you for responding. My installer showed me some samples, but they were not on a car's surface so hard to say. Anyways, I decided to go ahead with the Ultra. The small difference in price plus the added warranty and improvements in the film seem to be worth it. It will actually be going on my silver Black Series.

After my car is completed next month I will post up my thoughts and pictures for others who may have the same questions.

[SuckaGDog]

Originally Posted by Eric S

suntek ppfc looks good and great, great gloss and clarity
suntek ultra has a ever so slightly more grain to the film, hardly noticeable, not noticeable unless you have suntek ppfc right next to it.
ultra is more clear on white where ppfc has a tad more "yellowness" to it.

Cant go wrong with either one, might as well get the ultra for the longer warranty against delamination, yellowing, peeling (not lifting edges), etc. Expect to pay about 10% more for ultra, its more expensive than ppfc

Just got my back car back last Friday with the new Ultra film installed, and I applied the Dr Beasley's Nano Resin coating on it this week.

You are correct, there is a very, very minuscule amount of grain on the Ultra film. As soon as I compared the PPF-C to the Ultra film sample I saw it. If I didn't compare the two I wouldn't have noticed. At first it bothered me a tad, but got over it as the other benefits were worth choosing the Ultra. No brainer going with the Ultra since the price difference was so small.

[Aaaaaaaaa]

Any significant price difference between XPEL and Suntek?

[Eric S]

from a roll cost price, it depends on the company and their purchase price. Shop 1 might get it for 5 a roll, but shop 2 gets it for 8 a roll...that right there is enough to push things a couple of ways.

either the 8 shop will have to charge more to cover costs, or eat the difference

So, to say for certain, its unclear. I do know for a fact suntek ultra is more expensive per roll, so expect to pay the same as xpel these days, but its a better looking film

[DR-JEKL]

hey guys I'm looking at the suntek PPF and the ultra is more like $400 AUD more with 10yrs warranty vs 5 years for the standard

Ive had my car now for almost 7 years and plan on keeping it, but yeah unsure if its worth the extra $ or not??

[Eric S]

I would. There is no need to keep PPFC in stock anymore unless its to hit a lower point, but that doesnt make any sense when you really break it down.

If you go in asking for a 1200 full front, you can be assured you are not getting PPF Ultra as something has to give in order to give a 30% discount Any business offering a 30 to 50% discount just because is going to go under fast and I would stay away from that job.

[DR-JEKL]

Originally Posted by Eric S

I would. There is no need to keep PPFC in stock anymore unless its to hit a lower point, but that doesnt make any sense when you really break it down.

If you go in asking for a 1200 full front, you can be assured you are not getting PPF Ultra as something has to give in order to give a 30% discount Any business offering a 30 to 50% discount just because is going to go under fast and I would stay away from that job.

This is the pricing in AUD