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      03-02-2018, 01:40 PM   #1
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What is left to increase performance?

I'm trying to find out what else I can do to increase performance, already have:
Akrapovic exhaust with downpipes
Eventuri cold air intake
Evolve Stage 2 tune with GTS software
Evolution Racewerks chargepipes
I'm not interested in upgrading turbos yet and don't know enough about WMI, although I'm trying to learn as much as possible as WMI is definitely a direction I will go in but what is left, if anything?
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Drag radials?, lol
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Intake and charge pipes make zero power.

I guess upgrading the turbos is the only thing left.
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Reduce vehicle weight, lightweight wheels. If 6MT lightened flywheel? DCT then GTS coding?
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Reduce vehicle weight, lightweight wheels. If 6MT lightened flywheel? DCT then GTS coding?
Less weight will make him quicker but it looks like he wants dyno power.
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Reduce vehicle weight, lightweight wheels. If 6MT lightened flywheel? DCT then GTS coding?
Less weight will make him quicker but it looks like he wants dyno power.
Either, or, really... Tbh I'm looking for the next mod and trying to find what else I could do before I go for the GTS bonnet but focusing performance or speed in the mean time
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Upgraded heat exchanger for lower IAT's more and consistent power.
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Upgraded heat exchanger for lower IAT's more and consistent power.
Installed and tested that with datalogging. No significant reduction in IAT or improvement in ability to maintain IAT under WOT. On a stage 2 tune + catless downpipes only setup atleast, maybe it'll make a difference for really high powered setups.
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Installed and tested that with datalogging. No significant reduction in IAT or improvement in ability to maintain IAT under WOT. On a stage 2 tune + catless downpipes only setup atleast, maybe it'll make a difference for really high powered setups.
Well that is terrible. Maybe the combo of the front H/E and top mount? non the less that an expensive setup not to see solid IAT decrease comapred to stock. Disappointing.

Have the data to share before and after? I been looking to find someone actually show some real data of IAT's with these aftermarket coolers. This forum seem to be very low on data and tech talk, coming from other forums.
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Well that is terrible. Maybe the combo of the front H/E and top mount? non the less that an expensive setup not to see solid IAT decrease comapred to stock. Disappointing.

Have the data to share before and after? I been looking to find someone actually show some real data of IAT's with these aftermarket coolers. This forum seem to be very low on data and tech talk, coming from other forums.
Well keep in mind the heat exchanger is ~$500 and not as expensive as the top mount charge cooler. I can definitely dig around in my list of datalogs. Stupid me didn't rename those datalogs and it's one of those datalogs where the name is a date stamp. So need to do some digging and checking when I actually installed the heat exchanger to identify which datalogs they were. I remember when testing I also tried my best to do my post install log on a day with similar weather conditions as the preinstall log (temperature and humidity wise atleast). So although conditions are obviously not identical, but they were close enough.
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I'm trying to find out what else I can do to increase performance, already have:
Akrapovic exhaust with downpipes
Eventuri cold air intake
Evolve Stage 2 tune with GTS software
Evolution Racewerks chargepipes
I'm not interested in upgrading turbos yet and don't know enough about WMI, although I'm trying to learn as much as possible as WMI is definitely a direction I will go in but what is left, if anything?
Water injection, 50-50 mix, or methanol all will help contain temperatures and allow the engine to hold the performance for longer duration's of time.
I don't know how many actually use pure methanol but some people refer to methanol but really they are running 50-50 which is alot safer as far as not catching on fire.
The M4GTS has water injection from the factory so it shows that water injection is beneficial.
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Surely upgrading the heat exchanger & charge cooler will help lower/control engine temps, not IATS?
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