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I bet if a fella dangled enough dollars in front of "old M3F" Forum Member "KAIV," he'd try it. The dude seems like a natural when it comes to complicated car repair.
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04-25-2024, 02:58 AM | #48 | |
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Swapping a DCT for a Manual isn't too hard at all. So out with the DCT and in with the 6MT, DCT I am going to dump on ebay with Deka Stage 3 Clutches and this pretty Fall-Line pan and Mishimoto Transcooler. The fact that Manuals will no longer be available scares me, the DCT really is a great trans, I haven't had a manual in many years so here we go. |
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I reached out to Kaiv. He's looking into it. If anyone has any solid advice, people to reach out to, etc.., I'd love to hear it.
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04-30-2024, 07:48 AM | #52 | |
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04-30-2024, 03:35 PM | #53 | |
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I hear OG Shark is about to work on a Manual to DCT to swap. You can probably pick his brain on how to do the reverse.
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Makes perfect sense to swap to 6MT from DCT. DCT feels completely unnatural in the F8X, and it feels totally at home in the E9X. You don't stay at full boost during shifts like the ZF auto and it doesn't rev up/drop revs fast enough to warrant that fast of shifts like a DCT does. The V8 in the E92 absolutely benefits from the DCT.
S65 = DCT S55 = 6MT Full send on this. And full send on Kaiv.
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05-01-2024, 10:49 PM | #59 |
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Let's get back to the ability to "swap" a GTS from a DCT to a manual? Any input from people with experience?
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S55 feels better with 6MT. S65 feels better with DCT. I'm not sure how else to put this, but your opinion quite literally means nothing to me. And again, nobody cares if GT4, GTS and CS came with DCT. The CSL came with SMG and that was absolutely horrible.
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05-02-2024, 10:57 AM | #61 | |
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Great. I’m glad you like your s55 + 6MT but “feels better” to you is your subjective opinion. Please provide an objective source or quantitative data logs. |
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05-02-2024, 11:25 AM | #62 | |
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The S55 cuts boost and doesn't hold full boost on upshifts. That's how it works. The auto in the S58 does. That's your data. I slip my tires shifting into 3rd if I want on my 6MT. It doesn't matter, I'm still not holding full boost. You can swap from your E92 to your F82 40 times in a row before lunch arrives. It doesn't matter. What objective source can there possibly be on a subjective topic like what transmission one prefers on what engine? You're acting like you married DCT and have to fight for its honor. S55 deserves 6MT. S65 deserves DCT.
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Whether it does or does not hold peak boost, the DCT is NOT waiting for boost to build before it accelerates in the next gear and the acceleration in the next gear is higher than it was at the end of the previous gear. DCT shifts take 0.01 sec to complete and the S55 + DCT never stops accelerating whereas a MT is around 0.2-0.3 sec for a competent driver and what’s happening to the S55 + MT while this shift is being executed? It’s decelerating due to drag + a much larger drop in rpm between gears which means a larger drop in exhaust velocity which means a larger drop in boost pressure before you complete your shift and get back on the throttle yet somehow the S55 + DCT which never stops accelerating is waiting for boost to build but the MT does not have an even larger boost delta to build before it starts to accelerate again in the next gear? There’s no need to cut boost with a DCT considering the next gear is already selected and only requires the release of one clutch and the engagement of the 2nd clutch to exchange gears. Now it’s all a subjective discussion? If that’s the case then stop writing in absolutes and add “IMO” to all of your posts because that’s all that it is - your own qualitative opinion. I’m defending the S55 + DCT from asinine subjective statements that are being tossed around as absolutes. Please enjoy YOUR favorite S55 + 6MT power-drivechain combination. Isn’t the 6MT a direct carryover from the e9x M3 so its gear ratios aren’t optimized for the S55? Sorry OP. I hope your 6MT swap goes smoothly and is everything you had hoped it would be! I have absolutely nothing against MTs. I’ve enjoyed driving on track MTs in ed9 CRX Si, eh3 Civic Si, e30 M3s, e36 M3s, e46 M3s, NA1 NSX, NA2 NSX, AP1 S2000 and AP2 S2000. However, I absolutely love the performance of the DCT on both s65 and s55 engines. SMG II with s54 + CSL software + lightweight flywheel is a nice setup if you drive it like a manual transmission (slight lift between gear changes). Last edited by M3SQRD; 05-03-2024 at 11:54 PM.. |
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Holy brain rot no way we have someone saying a DCT doesn't belong on a S55. The $1500 coil overs with $8000 wheels tells me all I need to know. Enjoy the park and chills.
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