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      07-22-2013, 05:19 PM   #45
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As per all M Concepts it will be static and off limits , no official details as per normal will be confirmed until launch later this year - BMW like to keep their competitors guessing.
I guess this means the hood will be down. Drat!
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      07-22-2013, 06:20 PM   #46
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Interesting. It looks like Lexus will be unveiling a direct competitor to the M4 at the same event - the Lexus RC-F
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      07-22-2013, 07:30 PM   #47
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Too much is being made of the name change for the coupe. Shakespear said it best:

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Hopefully the car will be judged on its merit.
A fair point. However, the real issue and one I definitely care about personally is that this gives BMW near Carte blanche in terms of increasing the price of the Coupe over the sedan (and increasing prices a lot over the current E92 M3). Of course they have all of the control anyway and can charge whatever they like, but in a practical sense this means one will be paying more for less just because one prefers 2 doors. Many folks will believe that the car is significantly different than the new M3 (bigger is better) phenomena when the engines will almost for sure be identical. I mean after all it is like the M5 vs. the M3 sort of, right? (sarcasm).
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      07-22-2013, 08:31 PM   #49
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Awesome. I'll be sure to take pics since I'll be there.

Thanks for the heads up!
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not interested in a concept after seeing the drastic difference between 4 series concept and production 4 series
So sick of hearing this childish troll remark designed to piss people off. Take the time to do some research and you will find that the concept is 98% of what the production form is. Only difference is paint, wheels, front and rear bumper, mirrors and door handles.
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      07-22-2013, 09:20 PM   #51
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What is going to happen on July 29????????????
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      07-22-2013, 09:21 PM   #52
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Thank you i3, I hope you blow all sales records out of the water. More money for BMW to sink into M cars and more petrol left to run them
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      07-23-2013, 03:31 AM   #53
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What is going to happen on July 29????????????
? Read the thread. This has been answered multiple times.
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This is great news!!!
The M4 should have the LED lights in front that the 4 series concept had. This will make the M version that more sublime and unique to the regular 4 series version. I also hope they do a CSL version down the road.
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      07-23-2013, 07:18 AM   #55
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This is great news!!!
The M4 should have the LED lights in front that the 4 series concept had. This will make the M version that more sublime and unique to the regular 4 series version. I also hope they do a CSL version down the road.
Unfortunately they have said no to a CSL version but I doubt they won't come out with something special i.e. CRT.

In terms of the lights. I think the concept will have the same lights as the 4-series concept but knowing BMW they'll cut back and make them the same as the production 4-series. when it finally hits the street.

Regardless I'm excited!!!
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      07-23-2013, 07:40 AM   #56
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In terms of the lights. I think the concept will have the same lights as the 4-series concept but knowing BMW they'll cut back and make them the same as the production 4-series. when it finally hits the street.
I would actually anticipate the concept will use production 4 Series headlights. And yes, we are all but guaranteed that the production car will use those headlights regardless. This is one place where parts can be shared without any compromise in performance to the M offering. We can expect BMW to continue to use those opportunities to keep costs down.

Although BMW uses therm term "concept car" loosely for show cars covering a wide variety of intentions, M concept cars in the past have essentially been production-intent prototypes with very minor differences from what ends up at the dealership. We should expect nothing less in this instance as well.
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      07-23-2013, 08:10 AM   #57
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I suppose they really want to hammer home the new M4 branding before talking about the old name being repurposed just for the sedan.
Hmm, good analysis...
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      07-23-2013, 10:01 AM   #58
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A fair point. However, the real issue and one I definitely care about personally is that this gives BMW near Carte blanche in terms of increasing the price of the Coupe over the sedan (and increasing prices a lot over the current E92 M3). Of course they have all of the control anyway and can charge whatever they like, but in a practical sense this means one will be paying more for less just because one prefers 2 doors. Many folks will believe that the car is significantly different than the new M3 (bigger is better) phenomena when the engines will almost for sure be identical. I mean after all it is like the M5 vs. the M3 sort of, right? (sarcasm).
It certainly does offer a distraction. The coupe "premium" (as in "an amount paid above what would be considered the ordinary price for an item") looks like a trend that isn't going away any time soon. It's unfortunate, but the only way we'd see any move away from that model is if coupe sales suffered as a result. In other words, the only way to fight that trend is to not buy the car. I don't see that happening. There are too many people with the money to spend.

I'm probably going to stay with the 2-series and wait for the M2. The pricing on the M4 looks like it's going to push in to Carrera territory, or more realistically, very well equipped Cayman S territory. I just can't wrap my head around the financial commitment at that price level.
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It certainly does offer a distraction. The coupe "premium" (as in "an amount paid above what would be considered the ordinary price for an item") looks like a trend that isn't going away any time soon. It's unfortunate, but the only way we'd see any move away from that model is if coupe sales suffered as a result. In other words, the only way to fight that trend is to not buy the car. I don't see that happening. There are too many people with the money to spend.

I'm probably going to stay with the 2-series and wait for the M2. The pricing on the M4 looks like it's going to push in to Carrera territory, or more realistically, very well equipped Cayman S territory. I just can't wrap my head around the financial commitment at that price level.
Agree all around!
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I will be going to the Legends of the Autobahn which is just down the road in Monterey. Wonder if they will have a viewing there as well? Seems as though the Legends show would be a better forum for the preview; they did have the Zagato roadster there last year??

$275.00 for tickets to Pebble Beach is a little rich for my taste.

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      07-23-2013, 10:33 PM   #62
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I cannot wait!
Same here. Want to make a decision about my next car and have been dying to see the finished product.
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This is awesome! Ill be down there at the same time for Oktoberfest. Hope to get a peak in person.
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Scott are you able to tell us which event the M4 will be at and what dates it will be on display so we can plan our trips accordingly?

Like others have stated its pretty pricey and a long drive for some of us but we want to make the journey if we know forsure we are going to be able to see the car.

Any insight would be very helpful.
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      07-24-2013, 12:14 PM   #65
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At the pebble beach concours (sunday) there is a putting green right next to the main show entrance and typically there are a whole bunch of concept cars on that putting green for viewing. I'm going to guess it will be here.
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^^sweet! thank you for the insight!
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