Got rid of the M4 and bought a Panamera

[bmw246]

Originally Posted by RickFLM4

I don't think I'd buy either one for myself, but believe the Porsche interior and fit/finish will be superior to Tesla. Also if one doesn't want to deal with charging time and / or drives long distances at speeds above 55 MPH such that range is a factor, it sorta takes Tesla out of the equation.

I've driven many different Panameras and I have also driven the Tesla P85 (non-d). They're both great cars. I move around a lot so not I wanna have to worry about installing the charger and also I may be driving cross country in the not so distant future and don't want to worry about running out of power. The Tesla is amazing and fun but I really love the Porsche. I also needed something now and new Teslas need to be ordered and this was on the lot. Anyone who says one is better then the other is crazy they're both great and offer similar HP and handling if you get the right models, just depends which you prefer.

[zer0cool]

Originally Posted by bmw246

I've driven many different Panameras and I have also driven the Tesla P85 (non-d). They're both great cars. I move around a lot so not I wanna have to worry about installing the charger and also I may be driving cross country in the not so distant future and don't want to worry about running out of power. The Tesla is amazing and fun but I really love the Porsche. I also needed something now and new Teslas need to be ordered and this was on the lot. Anyone who says one is better then the other is crazy they're both great and offer similar HP and handling if you get the right models, just depends which you prefer.

Makes sense. Both great cars and it's a matter of personal choice.

Glad you are enjoying the new car.

[bmw246]

Originally Posted by zer0cool

Makes sense. Both great cars and it's a matter of personal choice.

Glad you are enjoying the new car.

Thanks(= Very very happy

[catchm3ifyoucann]

Originally Posted by RickFLM4

I don't think I'd buy either one for myself, but believe the Porsche interior and fit/finish will be superior to Tesla. Also if one doesn't want to deal with charging time and / or drives long distances at speeds above 55 MPH such that range is a factor, it sorta takes Tesla out of the equation.

Please keep in mind this is applies to internal combustion engines too.... Faster you the the less MPG you get.

Btw 8% isn't to bad.

Pics of the new car?

Congrats.

[Tryboz]

Was hoping for some real feedback here. Car just was not for me kinda lame reaponse. Y even post it?

Like tellin woman its not u, its me....

[haynstyleM2]

Sorry for your lost.....

[zer0cool]

Originally Posted by Tryboz

Was hoping for some real feedback here. Car just was not for me kinda lame reaponse. Y even post it?

Like tellin woman its not u, its me....

Given the car he moved to, I assume he felt the M4 convertible was too loud and uncomfortable. Also, since car is so heavy, it's actually not that quick, nor handles very well... so you get the worst of both worlds, meaning not quick and at the same time loud and uncomfortable.

So therefore he moved to something that is quieter and more comfortable, while still handles pretty well.

[TahoeM3]

Originally Posted by zer0cool

Given the car he moved to, I assume he felt the M4 convertible was too loud and uncomfortable. Also, since car is so heavy, it's actually not that quick, nor handles very well... so you get the worst of both worlds, meaning not quick and at the same time loud and uncomfortable.

So therefore he moved to something that is quieter and more comfortable, while still handles pretty well.

Hmm...0-60 in 4.1 and the 1/4 in 12.4@113 for the M4 cab is no slouch. And 0.94 on the skid pad is pretty good, too. It's definitely a lot faster than the 310 hp Panamera 4. This was a decision to have a luxury cruiser, which is fine, but they are very far apart.

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...-manual-review

[Jaymax85]

enjoy it in good health .

[zer0cool]

Originally Posted by TahoeM3

Hmm...0-60 in 4.1 and the 1/4 in 12.4@113 for the M4 cab is no slouch. And 0.94 on the skid pad is pretty good, too. It's definitely a lot faster than the 310 hp Panamera 4. This was a decision to have a luxury cruiser, which is fine, but they are very far apart.

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...-manual-review

Interesting. I understand for auto/dct why launch is significantly faster than 5-60. Why is manual 0-60 4.1 vs 5-60 4.8?

Great info tho, I hadn't looked into the cab's numbers before. It appears that it performs really well even with the significant added weight. Kudos to BMW engineering.

[///Pip]

Originally Posted by bmw246

I love the Panamera. I missed my hydraulic steering in the E93 which the Panamera has. I got the special edition 4 brand new with a buncha options. Less power but it's ok. I like the soft ride and all the creature comforts. That was more important to me then power. Down the road perhaps I'll upgrade to the 4s or GTS but I'm happy for now!

Looks like you're describing the RS6/7 to me !

RS7 is faster than just about anything save for the super cars ... and has all the creature comforts you desire ...

[TahoeM3]

Originally Posted by zer0cool

Interesting. I understand for auto/dct why launch is significantly faster than 5-60. Why is manual 0-60 4.1 vs 5-60 4.8?

Great info tho, I hadn't looked into the cab's numbers before. It appears that it performs really well even with the significant added weight. Kudos to BMW engineering.

"Launch control" for manuals has been around long before dual clutch transmissions were even thought of. It's called dropping the clutch and squeezing onto the power.