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      01-07-2018, 12:11 PM   #309
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I have a yr left on my F80 lease. Looking primarily at a 4 door since it will be my DD and have been debating on what 4 door to get. I have a 996 TT so panamera is probably out. Plus for whatever reason, it seems that Porsche's (no matter how old) always get looks and comments which I prefer to avoid. That was/is the beauty of the F80. Great as a DD and awed by true enthusiasts.

Since I usually lease through my business, I have been considering E63s or maybe AR QF (dont hate me)..Both dont really have attractive lease rates compared to BMW.

Suggestions??
Why not C63S instead of E? If you want something larger like the E, there is also M5, 550i and Audi S6/S7 among others. Depends of size of car and budget you prefer. (Leases on Audi's aren't great either, unless you pick up a final model year of a generation as they are about to roll out a new generation.)
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      01-07-2018, 01:38 PM   #310
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I have a yr left on my F80 lease. Looking primarily at a 4 door since it will be my DD and have been debating on what 4 door to get. I have a 996 TT so panamera is probably out. Plus for whatever reason, it seems that Porsche's (no matter how old) always get looks and comments which I prefer to avoid. That was/is the beauty of the F80. Great as a DD and awed by true enthusiasts.

Since I usually lease through my business, I have been considering E63s or maybe AR QF (dont hate me)..Both dont really have attractive lease rates compared to BMW.

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Id get a QF or CTSV- pretty nice GT car with a firebreathing V8 and talented chassis.
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      01-07-2018, 03:38 PM   #311
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Currently leasing a 15' AY F82 as my DD. Lease ends late June. I love the car and it fits all my needs but I'm still contemplating keeping the car or switching. The M2 CS is super interesting since I've wanted a more nimble feeling car but don't want to really downgrade too much on power.

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      01-09-2018, 05:07 AM   #312
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      01-11-2018, 12:16 AM   #314
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I have sat in my friends R8 V10.. Beautiful car and what a blast
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      01-11-2018, 12:18 AM   #315
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Why not C63S instead of E? If you want something larger like the E, there is also M5, 550i and Audi S6/S7 among others. Depends of size of car and budget you prefer. (Leases on Audi's aren't great either, unless you pick up a final model year of a generation as they are about to roll out a new generation.)
C63S is another good option. I heard that the new E63S is on a different level but quite a bit more heftier in price as well.
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      01-17-2018, 08:23 PM   #316
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      01-18-2018, 08:33 AM   #317
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From M4 to this....

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      01-18-2018, 08:41 AM   #318
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My 15’ M3 goes back in April, I was getting offers from BMW to pull ahead. Visited a few dealerships, and had my broker working on a 18 M3 comp package car. My wife was in the process of turning in her Grand Cherokee lease fom another one.....then this happened.



Same sticker price as the M. So far I’m in love. 2018 Jeep SRT (not the Trackhawk), just the plain old 500hp one.
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      01-20-2018, 01:59 PM   #319
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My 15’ M3 goes back in April, I was getting offers from BMW to pull ahead. Visited a few dealerships, and had my broker working on a 18 M3 comp package car. My wife was in the process of turning in her Grand Cherokee lease fom another one.....then this happened.


Same sticker price as the M. So far I’m in love. 2018 Jeep SRT (not the Trackhawk), just the plain old 500hp one.
Nice Jeep! I recently turned in my JGC Summit w/ Hemi (and moved on from my M4 ZCP). I was considering the SRT but the lease rates were not competitive. Did you lease or purchase it? Rare vehicle even in my area. Enjoy it.
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      01-20-2018, 07:51 PM   #320
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My 15’ M3 goes back in April, I was getting offers from BMW to pull ahead. Visited a few dealerships, and had my broker working on a 18 M3 comp package car. My wife was in the process of turning in her Grand Cherokee lease fom another one.....then this happened.



Same sticker price as the M. So far I’m in love. 2018 Jeep SRT (not the Trackhawk), just the plain old 500hp one.
On a side note: I've never used a car broker. What advantages do they provide? Do you save money? What's the primary reason for using one?
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      01-21-2018, 12:29 PM   #321
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QF if you don't really need it to be dependable or have patience for it inconveniencing you.

I'd prob get the Merc though because noises
As stated multiple times, my QV has been 100% reliable over the past 11 months and so have my friend’s Quadrifoglios too. The warning light issue that was written about 10 months ago was just a start/stop issue solved with a quick software update, and the complaints from a few journalists was completely overblown. My Alfa has been more reliable so far than my F80 was.
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      01-21-2018, 09:57 PM   #322
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My 15’ M3 goes back in April, I was getting offers from BMW to pull ahead. Visited a few dealerships, and had my broker working on a 18 M3 comp package car. My wife was in the process of turning in her Grand Cherokee lease fom another one.....then this happened.



Same sticker price as the M. So far I’m in love. 2018 Jeep SRT (not the Trackhawk), just the plain old 500hp one.
This SUV has some serious power. It was after a while I had someone who could stay on the tail of M. Felt nice lol.

But V8 and must consume a lot of gas. With that said, we don't really care about gas do we?
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      01-22-2018, 07:25 AM   #323
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Nice Jeep! I recently turned in my JGC Summit w/ Hemi (and moved on from my M4 ZCP). I was considering the SRT but the lease rates were not competitive. Did you lease or purchase it? Rare vehicle even in my area. Enjoy it.
It’s a lease. The sticker was the same as my M3 (76k), I put less down (4K to cover taxes and tags), went for the 15k mile option (residual dropped to .52), and my monthly payment is about $100 more than M. I also used a Jeep control number from a family member which saved me 2% off MSRP.

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On a side note: I've never used a car broker. What advantages do they provide? Do you save money? What's the primary reason for using one?
Brokers are able to locate specific cars if your dealer cant/won’t. You do usually save money. Brokers generally deal directly with fleet salesman at dealerships and are able to rates/programs which general salesman’s aren’t aware of. For my M, I was told by three different dealerships they couldn’t find the color and interior combination I wanted. My broker found it, secured it, and had it delivered to me with a salesman from Bmw go over the car. I also purchased Tire and wheel insurance directly through my broker which was half the price of Bmw. If you’re thinking about using one, you still need to visit the dealership to look at a few vehicles and figure out where you need to be pricewise. Then I usually turn the reins over to the broker and have him do the rest.



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This SUV has some serious power. It was after a while I had someone who could stay on the tail of M. Felt nice lol.

But V8 and must consume a lot of gas. With that said, we don't really care about gas do we?
It has an Eco (4 cylinder) mode!
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      01-22-2018, 10:01 AM   #324
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Moved to GT350 from '15 F80 (and '12 GT-R before that)

Pros: Fantastic suspension, sticky in corners, precise and satisfying steering, better manual shifter than any BMW made in 20+ years, aggressive looks, cheap maintenance, strong residual values. Absolute blast to drive and real driver's car.

Cons: Cheap interior, racing stripe looks immature, crap stereo, no heated seats with Recaros, 15 mpg mixed use. Engine has to be throttled to get to the torque.

Final analysis: I am in love with this car but I do miss exclusivity of my GT-R and its turbo torque. Don't really miss my M3 except for the utility it provided with 4 doors. After losing $17k in 2 years of ownership, probably my last BMW. BMW has to stop catering to leasers and shore up the residual values of their M cars.
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      01-22-2018, 06:11 PM   #325
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Moved to GT350 from '15 F80 (and '12 GT-R before that)

Pros: Fantastic suspension, sticky in corners, precise and satisfying steering, better manual shifter than any BMW made in 20+ years, aggressive looks, cheap maintenance, strong residual values. Absolute blast to drive and real driver's car.

Cons: Cheap interior, racing stripe looks immature, crap stereo, no heated seats with Recaros, 15 mpg mixed use. Engine has to be throttled to get to the torque.

Final analysis: I am in love with this car but I do miss exclusivity of my GT-R and its turbo torque. Don't really miss my M3 except for the utility it provided with 4 doors. After losing $17k in 2 years of ownership, probably my last BMW. BMW has to stop catering to leasers and shore up the residual values of their M cars.
Interesting reading this. I am a former M4 owner and GT-R owner as well. Currently carless; just driving my Tundra 1794 Crewmax. Seriously considering a GT350. Wouldn't do Recaro's or racing stripes. Want the heated seats.

Out of all the cars that I have owned in the past (includes E60M5, 996TT, 997TT, 981S, E92M3, C6Z06) I think at this point in my life, I'd go back to the GT-R if I don't go GT350......also looking at C63AMG Coupe.
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After 3 years in an F series I went back to the slower more visceral E92. I am enjoying it very much but I am considering trading it in on a GT350. It kinda seems like the natural progression from the e92 and what the M4 should have been engine wise.

Above: the racing stripe is an option and can be easily removed.

I see more Gt-Rs riding around than I do GT350. Youll pull all the teenage boys to you in the Gt-R tho.
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I'm also looking at a GT 350. Still nasty dealer markups though.
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I'll probably keep my 2015 M4 for two more years until its paid off, but as of today these are the cars I'd consider. My criteria are roughly $100K or less, must be a track beast, and would be nice if it held its value ok. A few on this list are over $100K in the hopes that in two years they will be in budget.

1) 2016 M4 GTS ($110K)
2) 2015-16 911 GTS ($100-120)
3) 991.1 GT3 ($130K)
4) 2018 Camaro ZL1 1LE ($70K)
5) next M4 ??
6) M4 CS ($??K)
7) 991.2 C2S

Couple more, but might be tight fit at 6'4" 290lbs
8) Cayman GT4 ($105)
9) Corvette Grand Sport ($75K)
10) Viper ($80-120K)
11) AMG GT S ($100K)

Any other thoughts?
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I'm also looking at a GT 350. Still nasty dealer markups though.
I found 5 2017s at a dealer all with $2k off MSRP. They are all located in the SouthEast. PM me if interested and Ill send you the dealer info.
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I found 5 2017s at a dealer all with $2k off MSRP. They are all located in the SouthEast. PM me if interested and Ill send you the dealer info.
Thanks. I'll definitely let you know.
I want to trade in the M4. I think I'll try something more local to me first.
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