Common etiquette for M3/M4 owners?

[OneRib]

Originally Posted by JNoSol

I thought New Yorkers don't like strangers saying hi to them?

I traveled to NY/NJ weekly for 9yrs. I stop saying hello to people after the first month.

It took you a month?

[JonnyM3]

Originally Posted by JNoSol

I thought New Yorkers don't like strangers saying hi to them?

I traveled to NY/NJ weekly for 9yrs. I stop saying hello to people after the first month.

Nope we don't, fortunately I'm in California lol. I think the guy is on these boards and hope he just simply didn't see me. Who knows.

[M4UK]

THIS IS A NON-THREAD

[JNoSol]

Originally Posted by OneRib

It took you a month?

It was the last straw when a guy told me to F*ck off. I cover the South now, complete opposite experience. They're almost too friendly.

Originally Posted by JonnyM3

Nope we don't, fortunately I'm in California lol. I think the guy is on these boards and hope he just simply didn't see me. Who knows.

Damn, what a prick. He's prob mad b/c your car looks better.

[nbennettksu]

I usually give the thumbs up and get them in return. Occasionally I get the typical douche BMW driver who looks at me like I'm incompetent (which I totally am).

[brownb_2]

i get upset when people don't wave to me when I'm driving a Hyundai hire car.

its like hey.. don't you have the passion i have for hyundais!

[NickRac]

Maybe they aren't enthusiasts? They may not even notice that you've got the same car and really don't care...

Maybe they think you are giving THEM the "thumbs up" and not the car...

[Capt Crunch]

Could be worse, I think I'm the only M3 in all of Cleveland. Don't have anyone to wave too.

[///M///]

Threads like these bother me no end. It's not a damn Ferrari. I'll add to the garbage this thread is........

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Driving etiquette relates to the general courtesy rules which communities expect the operators of vehicles to follow while driving.[1][2][3] Use of the term dates back to the early 1900s and the use of horse-drawn carriages.[4] Good driving etiquette typically involves being courteous and staying alert which varies by vehicle, situation, and location (etiquette for driving an F1 car[5] involves different rules than etiquette for driving an RV[6]). Failure to adhere to this behavior can lead to increased risk of road collisions, anxiety, and to acts of road rage.[7] Driving etiquette can extend beyond in-vehicle actions:[8] "When a courteous driver scrapes the fender or inflicts minor damage to a parked car without its owner present, he leaves a note giving his name, his telephone number, and the name of the insurance company. If the owner is present, the courteous driver exchanges insurance information politely and contacts the proper authorities right away without incident". Breaches in driving etiquette can often be addressed amiably with a simple and immediate expression of apology.[9] The general guiding principle behind driver etiquette is "one good turn deserves another".[10] It is considered vital that everyone adheres to good driving etiquette.[11] Speeding and aggressive driving, both examples of poor driving etiquette, have been cited as negative factors related to rural highways.[12] Drivers need education about driving etiquette to prevent them getting into accidents.[13]

Examples of bad driving etiquette[edit]
The following acts are commonly cited as examples of bad driving etiquette.[28][29] In many cases, while the action does not pose any actual threat, it is considered to be a pet peeve of many drivers.

"Nudging" pedestrians
Involves drivers coaxing pedestrians who are trying to cross a crosswalk by honking or crowding them.
Tailgating
Involves driving dangerously close to the vehicle ahead (often in an attempt to encourage them to increase their speed). This action can distract the operator of the forward vehicle and reduces the stopping time of the rear vehicle in case of sudden speed changes.[13]
Driving below posted speed limits
Though a safe practice during extreme weather conditions, driving well below the posted speed limits or below the speed of traffic causes bottlenecks and can reduce traffic speeds considerably.
Double parking
Double-parked vehicles can disrupt traffic flow, causing other motorists to navigate their way around them.
Driving in busy areas with high beams on
At night this action can blind oncoming traffic, making it more difficult for vehicles to safely follow the road. When following another vehicle, glare from this action can reduce the effectiveness of the forward vehicle's mirrors — reducing situational awareness and increasing the likelihood of an accident.
Refusing to yield right-of-way to other vehicles
Merging vehicles must accelerate or brake unsafely or can be forced off the road at the end of a merging lane due to this action.
Driving with loud, distracting music
Reduces the driver's ability to hear and react to noises around the vehicle (including emergency-vehicle sirens).
Driving a vehicle with snow and ice covering it
Can endanger others if the snow-covered vehicle reaches highway speeds and chunks of ice/snow fly off behind the vehicle. Snow and ice can also slide down from the roof to block visibility from the rear window in the car, reducing the driver's situational awareness.
Changing lanes and turning without use of signals
Increases the likelihood of an accident by surprising other drivers with a lane change or turn unexpectedly.
Cutting off other motorists
Refers to a vehicle that enters a lane without proper caution, leaving a small amount of distance between other surrounding vehicles. This can be caused by unawareness of surroundings, impatience, and/or aggressiveness.[30]
Driving below the speed of traffic in center or passing lanes
Causes a disruption in traffic flow as other vehicles must either slow to match the offending vehicle's speed, and may be forced to pass on the wrong side.
Slowly passing another vehicle/Using cruise control to pass a vehicle rather than accelerating
Causes a disruption for other vehicles in the passing lane for the duration of the time the passing car occupies it.[31]
Distracted driving (includes talking on the phone, smoking, drinking, and eating)
Reduces driver awareness of the road and the likelihood of collision increase has been likened to drunk driving.[32]
Pet peeves[edit]
Although in some cases they pose no actual threat or danger, some actions are seen as unpleasant or pet peeves and thus classified as bad driving etiquette.

Ed Janicki of the October 1981 issue of Scouting, cites the following as driving pet peeves:[33]

drivers ahead of [him] who do not use turn signals before making a turn
teenage drivers who blare out music on the radio while they wait at a stop sign
women to apply lipstick at a red light
drivers who park in the middle of a yellow line ... taking up two car spaces
vans that tailgate [him] on the freeway
drivers who zigzag from left lane to middle lane to right lane...and exceed the speed limit because they're behind schedule
Vicky Deoster, author of The Wacky World of Womanhood, cites "driving around the parking lot for an hour in order to get the closest spot" and insinuating that constantly pressing down on the pedal counts as exercise as driving pet peeve of hers.[34]

The poem "Car Complaints and Pet Peeves", by Michael Burdick, expresses the perspective of a car which explains how certain pet peeves cause it to "rust" and "overheat" etc. The piece mentions the following as driving pet peeves:[35]

traffic jams
cars stopping traffic to allow cars to enter traffic
cars not following zipper method when merging
parking-lot induced dents and scratches
people who drive irresponsibly and use their handicap plates as an excuse
pulling out in front of fellow drivers
driving well below the posted speed limits
weaving from lane to lane
driving too close to the centreline
terrible roads
flying debris from uncovered trucks
litter on the road
people blinding oncoming traffic with headlights

[Dimitri]

Originally Posted by JNoSol

I thought New Yorkers don't like strangers saying hi to them?

I traveled to NY/NJ weekly for 9yrs. I stop saying hello to people after the first month.

I don't blame you I stopped doing it after the first week when i lived there!

[nathangracey]

Originally Posted by 04RC51

This! We aren't driving Jeeps where you have to wave due to some bro law? You just drive the same car, you aren't friends or family as far as I know? Even when we ride motorcycles, we don't wave. We just share a hobby, big deal. It's not a brotherhood when you buy a bike either. It would be like waving to everyone that plays golf just because you share a hobby. Very odd and confusing practice. :

I think we found the guy you waved at

[nathangracey]

I wave at every M owner I see. In fact, I wave at most cool cars I see.
Im happy to keep waving alive.

How does it make you feel when people wave at you?

Good. It makes you feel good. So why not make someone else feel that way?

[04RC51]

Originally Posted by nathangracey

I wave at every M owner I see. In fact, I wave at most cool cars I see.
Im happy to keep waving alive.

How does it make you feel when people wave at you?

Good. It makes you feel good. So why not make someone else feel that way?

Just wave at everyone you see then and spread your eternal happiness everywhere. But don't stop there! Wear a big red nose, some oversized shoes and juggle for them also! After all, you are just put on Earth to make sure every feels swell.

[Arcades]

I live in San Gabriel Valley, we have numerous Super Cars and quite a few F80/F82s and older E90s.

I ran into laurenxesq (the only female driver of SO M4 that I know of around my area.) twice, I did honk and stuff but when you are driving, sometimes you just don't notice. I'm not bothered by it. If you see them a bit more often like me, you can tell if they are into their cars or just doing it for status.

Personally, my dream car. And I did it for both :P

[AIRPOWER]

You will only find Vette, Jeep and Motorcycles that wave to each other.

First time it happened to me in my Vette, I was like why is this guy waving to me.

As far as I can tell M3/M4 owners don't treat their ownership as being in a "club" like the aforementioned.

[ChipB]

Back in the day, before BMWs became as common as dirt, 3-series drivers would always flash lights at other 3-series. I'm talking late 70's, early 80's, when BMW was still a unique marque. In those days BMW buyers were people who were interested in cars, and came to the brand not because of advertising or the yuppie tradition but because of true interest. But the tradition of flashing lights at other bimmer owners died some time in the mid-late 80's with the huge proliferation of BMWs on US roads. Now that BMW 3-series is the best selling car in CA there is no way that the majority of buyers are true enthusiasts.

[Duder]

I wave/give thumbs up all the time. I love that other people are so enthusiastic about my car! makes me happy

[ouchie]

Most BMW drivers here in SoCal pretty much... Suck... They are not like Lambo or Ferrari drivers OR Honda drivers... It is much worse here in OC, they think they own the road.

[ouchie]

Originally Posted by Duder

I wave/give thumbs up all the time. I love that other people are so enthusiastic about my car! makes me happy

Have to meet you someone, I drive a Red g37s FOR NOW...

[GlobalScientist]

I just flash my lights. I don't beep bc sometimes it confuses other drivers.

[r3dbimmer89]

Originally Posted by Drizz

I feel and notice the same

Being in OC...we see that a lot ...seems like the 335i drivers give me props much more often.

[jackmacm4]

Originally Posted by r3dbimmer89

Being in OC...we see that a lot ...seems like the 335i drivers give me props much more often.

That is very true,
So far the thumbs up I have received all come from 335 owners. This is Nor Cal.
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