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      02-18-2017, 02:39 PM   #485
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      02-19-2017, 04:32 AM   #486
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i asked my dealer in Münich. he said the m4 cs will be most probably priced over 100k euro
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i asked my dealer in Münich. he said the m4 cs will be most probably priced over 100k euro
EUR100k is ~21% over the base price of a base M4 in Germany, so that would mean ~$80k USD for the M4CS is the US. That's pretty much in the range that's been speculated thus far.
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      02-19-2017, 09:40 AM   #488
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i asked my dealer in Münich. he said the m4 cs will be most probably priced over 100k euro
EUR100k is ~21% over the base price of a base M4 in Germany, so that would mean ~$80k USD for the M4CS is the US. That's pretty much in the range that's been speculated thus far.
Idk, I'd be pretty shocked if it were under 90k. Then again, now that we know that there is no power increase over the ZCP, it might make the price more manageable.
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      02-19-2017, 10:25 AM   #489
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A fully loaded M4 (including the CCB) is already around 107.000€ in Germany, so it's hard for me to imagine, the M4 CS (which seems to be limited and includes several carbon Parts as well as OLEDs, different wheels...) will be below 120k here.
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Idk, I'd be pretty shocked if it were under 90k. Then again, now that we know that there is no power increase over the ZCP, it might make the price more manageable.
I don't think that there has been any confirmation of "no power increase". So far, rumors have indicated anywhere between 450ps to 500ps (444 to 493hp).
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A fully loaded M4 (including the CCB) is already around 107.000€ in Germany, so it's hard for me to imagine, the M4 CS (which seems to be limited and includes several carbon Parts as well as OLEDs, different wheels...) will be below 120k here.
I guess it really depends how the CS will be positioned and marketed. Will it be a limited run edition with very limited options like the GTS or will it be another designation as part of the offered M4 lineup?

If it is the latter, there is no point in comparing a loaded M4 with the CS. A "stripped" M4CS could be cheaper than a "loaded" M4 but will far exceed it if you also load it with options.
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Idk, I'd be pretty shocked if it were under 90k. Then again, now that we know that there is no power increase over the ZCP, it might make the price more manageable.
I don't think that there has been any confirmation of "no power increase". So far, rumors have indicated anywhere between 450ps to 500ps (444 to 493hp).
Just going by ynguldyn's post in the model pipeline thread:

"It'll only get the ZCP power increase."

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      02-19-2017, 11:38 AM   #493
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Idk, I'd be pretty shocked if it were under 90k. Then again, now that we know that there is no power increase over the ZCP, it might make the price more manageable.
How do you now for sure they won't be any power increase?
All speculation right now...
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Just going by ynguldyn's post in the model pipeline thread:

"It'll only get the ZCP power increase."

http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...postcount=1060
That is still a rumour, not a confirmation
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It might have more power than the ZCP but less than the GTS - with turbos it is very easy to just tweek it a little bit. It will dilute the range - make the GTS less special I think.
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And a GTS front lip?
I don't think that's a GTS lip.
I think it's a new lip altogether.
That is definitely not the adjustable GTS front lip. I have seen six GTSs and rode in one with the lip extended at Laguna Seca, an O'fest charity ride.
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That is still a rumour, not a confirmation
Amazing that no one knows for sure about the new M4 CS power upgrade at this point (ZCP or more?)
Those pre production cars must be kept in a vault.
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Amazing that no one knows for sure about the new M4 CS power upgrade at this point (ZCP or more?)
Those pre production cars must be kept in a vault.
The more I think about it I may speculate with a poster above. Maybe itll have like 475hp without the water injection. They gave the M2 CS a small bump in power with the S55...
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That is definitely not the adjustable GTS front lip. I have seen six GTSs and rode in one with the lip extended at Laguna Seca, an O'fest charity ride.
Agreed, the CS front lip is not the GTS front lip.

However, it does seem inspired by it. The CS lip looks very similar to the GTS' but extends further laterally on each side to reach all the way to the front fenders. It also does not have the lower mobile/extendable section.
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The more I think about it I may speculate with a poster above. Maybe itll have like 475hp without the water injection. They gave the M2 CS a small bump in power with the S55...
Yes, a little bump in power from additional boost without the water injection... All made attainable with additional cooling from the gts hood.

My point also was: how can they keep all this under wrap even though those pre-production cars are fully developed at this point and sitting in a garage somewhere. They have to be, with regular production starting in July.
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Yes, a little bump in power from additional boost without the water injection... All made attainable with additional cooling from the gts hood.

My point also was: how can they keep all this under wrap even though those pre-production cars are fully developed at this point and sitting in a garage somewhere. They have to be, with regular production starting in July.
What if it ends up being a limited model like the GTS? We have no idea on that do we?
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Here you go! Now every Civic M4 can become a CS!
Threshold will say so as you get into the car and you save over $10,000!

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      02-26-2017, 03:30 PM   #504
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* Some specifics regarding US spec 2018 M4 CS: standard DCT, OLED lights, wheel/tire package off the GTS.
Manual is not even an option ??
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