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      10-04-2017, 01:49 PM   #45
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Good thing i left you out of the coffee run

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Could sub $200K be coming soon for the .1RS now that the .2GT3 is out and faster in every performance metric?
For higher mileage .1 RSs, probably. I saw a listing at $2k below MSRP for a used .1 RS a few days ago. It was at $214k and had the right options but I am sure it is gobbled up by now.

Depending on how they price the .2 RS and what it has, the .1 may swing down (or maybe back up).
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Could 90k be coming soon?
I would actually be tempted to buy at $90k and add it to the GT3. The GTS is a really cool car but BMW's pricing team needed to bump the MSRP up enough to make room for the comp pack and CS. But, they ended up with a price a little too high. ~$100k would have been perfect for a GTS and would be considered a bargain and generated more demand (dealer could sell at ADMs). Same strategy for selling a house, price a little below market price, get multiple offers and start a bidding war.

Acura flubbed its NSX pricing (but not the Civic R). You can get $20k-$40k off new right now. The NSX would've been a great car at $130k, not $170k.
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Interestingly, GTS prices keep going up in Europe. Even higher than my post from a week ago...(top asking price $300,000)
It's called 'price-fixing', the Germans are good at that kind of stuff just kidding
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I would actually be tempted to buy at $90k and add it to the GT3. The GTS is a really cool car but BMW's pricing team needed to bump the MSRP up enough to make room for the comp pack and CS. But, they ended up with a price a little too high. ~$100k would have been perfect for a GTS and would be considered a bargain and generated more demand (dealer could sell at ADMs). Same strategy for selling a house, price a little below market price, get multiple offers and start a bidding war.

Acura flubbed its NSX pricing (but not the Civic R). You can get $20k-$40k off new right now. The NSX would've been a great car at $130k, not $170k.
Yes, they really messed up the NSX. 188 new ones for sale on the market. That does not even include used ones.
GTS, 22 left for sale. Not too bad in comparison...
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Yes, they really messed up the NSX. 188 new ones for sale on the market. That does not even include used ones.
GTS, 22 left for sale. Not too bad in comparison...
I see what you did there

But if you look at 'as a percentage of total production', it will tell a different story
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I see what you did there

But if you look at 'as a percentage of total production', it will tell a different story
Not that different:
22units for sale/800 total units = 2.75% of total GTS production still for sale, new, on the market.
If I apply the same ratio to Acura NSX, I come up with a total production of over 6,800 NSXs based on 188 available for sale. . I do not think they made that many NSX.
GTS wins!
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Not that different:
22units for sale/800 total units = 2.75% of total GTS production still for sale, new, on the market.
If I apply the same ratio to Acura NSX, I come up with a total production of over 6,800 NSXs based on 188 available for sale. . I do not think they made that many NSX.
GTS wins!
The more posts I read from you, the more I think you bought the GTS for the wrong reasons. Your numbers don't even make sense. Do a 2 minute search on cars.com and 29 new GTS' pop up (I am sure there are more that aren't on that website). That is a USA # so comparing that to the 800 sold worldwide is irrelevant. Let's say 30 (new USA) / 350 (total USA) = 8.5%. OR, 63 (new & used USA) / 350 (total USA) = 18%.

Again, not bashing any car, I would like to have a GTS even if it is just for it's novelty value. Just getting the facts straight.

Back to the OPs question: a used GTS with less than 100 miles on it is worth as much as someone is willing to pay on a given day, in a given market. If the car is priced above that, it won't sell. If you have $110k right now today and the new and used competition does not interest you as much, you should go a buy a GTS and drive the hell out of it. But remember to keep some distilled water with you wherever you go
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I would actually be tempted to buy at $90k and add it to the GT3. The GTS is a really cool car but BMW's pricing team needed to bump the MSRP up enough to make room for the comp pack and CS. But, they ended up with a price a little too high. ~$100k would have been perfect for a GTS and would be considered a bargain and generated more demand (dealer could sell at ADMs). Same strategy for selling a house, price a little below market price, get multiple offers and start a bidding war.

Acura flubbed its NSX pricing (but not the Civic R). You can get $20k-$40k off new right now. The NSX would've been a great car at $130k, not $170k.
NSX woulda been a home run if it came the way it sits now in 2008/9 when it was discussed as a coming soon vehicle lol. It would have been in all the 1-4 performance spots 6-10 years ago, and probably been lauded over and had a place in history. Now its a 200k 500 something whp car with a 200k sticker lol

The only way the GTS coulda been worse than the NSX is if they waited 9 more years offered the same power, charged 20k+ markups and tried to advertise it as a car of today lol
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Yesterday I saw a dealer selling a dark grey GTS with 625 miles for $116k.
I was offered a new frozen grey for same price, they won't hold value.
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I was offered a new frozen grey for same price, they won't hold value.
I finally picked one today. Absolutely fine automobile with all options in by default so for me it was a no brainer. I had optioned a M4 competition with the all the goodies and was already breaking 87k mark so in my mind, prices now are a steal for whatever units are left. GTS is tuned and with full warranty and maintenance, what more does one want?
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I was offered a new frozen grey for same price, they won't hold value.
I finally picked one today. Absolutely fine automobile with all options in by default so for me it was a no brainer. I had optioned a M4 competition with the all the goodies and was already breaking 87k mark so in my mind, prices now are a steal for whatever units are left. GTS is tuned and with full warranty and maintenance, what more does one want?
I?m being offered them at 110k, fair bit of difference between 87 and 110.
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I?m being offered them at 110k, fair bit of difference between 87 and 110.
Fully agree but it is not twice the value when it was originally reviewed. Believe me, there is a big difference and you will see once you drive it. I purchased mine around that. I don't think a new one with 100 miles will ever go for 87k. Used ones, just like any other car will depreciate.
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Oh boy, it is getting interesting.... that's GT4 money
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Oh boy, it is getting interesting.... that's GT4 money
They are used, not new, but definitely way better than a GT4 on all counts for that kind of money.
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They are used, not new, but definitely way better than a GT4 on all counts for that kind of money.
Eeks... insecure much?

Yes, they are used. Nowhere did I say they were new and the OP is looking for used, so...

Plus, they both have less miles than your car so if you’re curious on the value of that

Oh, and many, many would disagree with your opinion on the GT4. Just look at the used market and number produced vs. GTS.

You don’t have to be the GTS’ guardian angel ya know.
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Eeks... insecure much?

Yes, they are used. Nowhere did I say they were new and the OP is looking for used, so...

Plus, they both have less miles than your car so if you’re curious on the value of that

Oh, and many, many would disagree with your opinion on the GT4. Just look at the used market and number produced vs. GTS.

You don’t have to be the GTS’ guardian angel ya know.
Insecure? Where is that coming from?
Anyway, for that kind of money you should buy new: two of them on sale for $114,900 on cars.com (only $5,000 over the price you quoted).
And, yes, I maintain the GT4 is not at the same level in terms of performance. Just check the reviews and stats on both.
The Gts was way overpriced a few months ago. It is now a good value at this price level compared to a GT4. That is all I was saying...

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