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      09-14-2017, 09:31 AM   #1
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Opinions on the OEM GTS Wing for the M4

I've been asking a number of friends on their opinions of the OEM wing. Considering it as a mod option but I thought I'd open this up to the forums. Setup is a YMB, vorsteiner diffuser, platinum BBS FI-R 20", ST big brake kit red calipers. Going to remove the trunk lid lip and potentially put on the OEM wing. Trying to keep a clean look but wondering if the wing takes it over the top..
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Do you track the car, where it would actually be useful?
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For me it would look awful the only cars that can get away with a wing are the GT3s or a Lambo (Lambos still look much better without one)

F40/50 excepted but an M4 isn't a bloody F40.....

It'll look daft IMHO.
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Going for this look?

NO. Just NO
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I'm surprised at so much disdain for a part that is OEM and on one of the production M4 cars
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I'm surprised at so much disdain for a part that is OEM and on one of the production M4 cars
But it is NOT that car it was designed for.
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Trying to keep a clean look but wondering if the wing takes it over the top..
GTS wing is not a clean look. Don't be a ricer.
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But it is NOT that car it was designed for.
So you're saying the M4 GTS had the wing specifically designed for it and it would not benefit the M4, M4 ZCP, M4 CS in any way?
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GTS wing is not a clean look. Don't be a ricer.
I think this is a bit harsh to call it rice given that it is an OEM part for the car itself. The same notion would apply to many of the cosmetic M performance mods everyone puts on their F8Xs.
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But it is NOT that car it was designed for.
So you're saying the M4 GTS had the wing specifically designed for it and it would not benefit the M4, M4 ZCP, M4 CS in any way?
Depends on your answer to my prior post.

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GTS wing is not a clean look. Don't be a ricer.
I think this is a bit harsh to call it rice given that it is an OEM part for the car itself. The same notion would apply to many of the cosmetic M performance mods everyone puts on their F8Xs.
The difference is the other cosmetic parts DO NOT make the car look like this

It's your ride man. Do what you want. You asked for our opinions.
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The difference is the other cosmetic parts DO NOT make the car look like this

It's your ride man. Do what you want. You asked for our opinions.
I don't disagree to have different taste, I think it's just unfair to call one modification rice and another not when the purpose is equal and both are made from the manufacturer for those models.
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The difference is the other cosmetic parts DO NOT make the car look like this

It's your ride man. Do what you want. You asked for our opinions.
I don't disagree to have different taste, I think it's just unfair to call one modification rice and another not when the purpose is equal and both are made from the manufacturer for those models.
To each his own as the saying goes. I'm not a big "wing" guy. I understand the performance benefits on a track but these are dual purpose cars. Personally I think a wing looks ridiculous on most cars including the GTS.
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If you like the way the wing looks and plan on tracking your car, I'd say go for it. Keep in mind for the Track.....that you would likely need to run higher spring rates to compensate for the down force and would be a good idea to add a lip to balance out the down force in the front
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Seems he will never track it.

Has ignored that question twice now.

To each his own, he makes the payments.

Is it unfair to call it Rice?

Not in the least, if it?s a street car. That?s the entire point and definition of that term.

Chopsticks ahoy.
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It takes a heavily modified track car for that style wing to look right. I don't even think it looks right on the GTS.
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Seems he will never track it.

Has ignored that question twice now.

To each his own, he makes the payments.

Is it unfair to call it Rice?

Not in the least, if it?s a street car. That?s the entire point and definition of that term.

Chopsticks ahoy.
By the same token, you would consider the M performance front lip to be rice? Or does your definition only apply to wings and/or parts that you do not find tasteful? The point of the thread was not to ask whether there was track function to the wing. There is function to many M Performance parts off the street. I just find it interesting that you'd let other OEM parts pass just fine and call those that you dislike rice.

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Seems he will never track it.

Has ignored that question twice now.

To each his own, he makes the payments.

Is it unfair to call it Rice?

Not in the least, if it?s a street car. That?s the entire point and definition of that term.

Chopsticks ahoy.
By the same token, you would consider the M performance front lip to be rice? Or does your definition only apply to wings and/or parts that you do not find tasteful?
Nope. You?re missing everyone?s points. Not just mine.

GTS Front Lip on my car, absolutely rice. If it?s not tracked.

Extreme track focused items, on a non-tracked is rice/Poser/wanna be... whatever term people choose to use.

You asked for people opinions... you were given them.

Don?t ask questions if you don?t like people?s responses
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Nope. You?re missing everyone?s points. Not just mine.

GTS Front Lip on my car, absolutely rice. If it?s not tracked.

Extreme track focused items, on a non-tracked is rice/Poser/wanna be... whatever term people choose to use.

You asked for people opinions... you were given them.

Don?t ask questions if you don?t like people?s responses
My point is that you'd need to apply that same logic to even the most basic M Performance modification, like the standard M performance front lip (non GTS). I have zero problems and I was absolutely seeking to hear opinions on what people thought of the GTS wing. However, many of the members here put M Performance parts on their cars that never see the track . Hence, the same logic would apply to an OEM wing that you could just as easily order through your dealer and have slapped onto the car as easily as your front cf splitters / m perf front lip / m perf side skirts, etc. that have little benefit outside of the track. Nobody asks the question "are u taking it to the track?" when someone asks the opinion of a basic M performance lip.

Like I said, nothing against you disliking the wing aesthetically, but singling out one part and not saying the whole lot is in the same bucket unless you track is the part that I consider to be an unfair statement.
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Did you miss this part?

Extreme track focused items, on a non-tracked is rice/Poser/wanna be... whatever term people choose to use. That?s the general consensus.

Hey, none of us are paying your car payment. So, our opinions don’t matter in the end.
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Did you miss this part?

Extreme track focused items, on a non-tracked is rice/Poser/wanna be... whatever term people choose to use. That?s the general consensus.

Hey, none of us are paying your car payment. So, our opinions don’t matter in the end.
At what point does it become extreme? By that same notion, OEM CCBs on a street car is rice. It's purely subjective on what you are considering extreme. You don't seem to want to apply that to an M Performance lip or an M performance side skirt, that's apparently not extreme enough for you and is passable. I'd definitely like to see you make the same argument and consensus in any of other hundreds of threads in this section that discuss other parts by the "do you track?" argument. It's all the same bucket man, your belief is just on this part being past the threshold that you'd want to consider passable on the car before making the track argument. I'm fine with your dislike for the piece, my concern is you're just not applying it to other OEM parts that people can buy from M Performance that likely provide the same purpose to the buyer.
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I'm thinking to buy the CS rear spoiler. I can order it without a VIN.
You get some downforce and it's not rice (IMO).
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