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      08-18-2017, 12:30 AM   #89
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Stock car with Euro MDM coded, 295 MPSS rears for me. I rarely see TC on 2nd or 3rd, WOT, unless 1st gear launches, which throttle needs to be modulated.
but you don't know what you are taking about regarding traction/suspension because you don't access to that 1 special on ramp curve that is TRz06's benchmark for performance cars
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but you don't know what you are taking about regarding traction/suspension because you don't access to that 1 special on ramp curve that is TRz06's benchmark for performance cars
If you're taking a highway ramp curve WOT, then you should not be driving a RWD car.

RWD cars, you carry the speed into the curve, hit the apex, then WOT. Unless you plan on drifting on a public road.

I've been to 2 bmw sponsored events with autocross, you're going to get sent home early doing that kind of shit. That's the first thing they teach out of you.

That guy needs an AWD car.
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how come the GT350 is not called the Shelby anymore? Or is it the same thing?
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how come the GT350 is not called the Shelby anymore? Or is it the same thing?
Same thing.
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      08-18-2017, 04:06 PM   #93
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Stock car with Euro MDM coded, 295 MPSS rears for me. I rarely see TC on 2nd or 3rd, WOT, unless 1st gear launches, which throttle needs to be modulated.
but you don't know what you are taking about regarding traction/suspension because you don't access to that 1 special on ramp curve that is TRz06's benchmark for performance cars
Don't hate.

It's a great ramp to expose suspension tuning flaws.

It tells you how quickly any given car's suspension recomposes after being upset mid-corner with load on the suspension
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      08-18-2017, 05:29 PM   #94
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Congrats. I made the switch, albeit the GT350 is my secondary car. Zero regrets.
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-Finally - the sound. We've all seen the videos. I forgot how important sound is to the driving experience. I know it seems silly, but just having the audio sensation go with the driving sensation is like the difference between watching a movie at home vs the theater. It's a real thing that I discounted in the past and now I finally understand what those guys clinging to their E90's are talking about.
Hear hear!
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different days but a good reference, 2 tracks all that was available on fastestlaps.com for the GT350 v M3/M4.

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Congrats! Just got a 16 350R. Awesome car, shifter is great, suspension works wonders and engine/exhaust is epic. Downside is the size, feels a little big but getting used to it.
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Congrats! Just got a 16 350R. Awesome car, shifter is great, suspension works wonders and engine/exhaust is epic. Downside is the size, feels a little big but getting used to it.
wow dude! That's a mean looking beast you got there! Congrats!

Did it come like that from the factory with those red decals or did you add them yourself?

Also, how would you compare the acceleration from 0 to 60 vs an M3/M4?
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I was shopping the M4 and the GT 350 very closely. It was my first "big" sports car purchase and I wanted to get it right. I absolutely adore the GT350 and the engineering that Ford has put into the Voodoo is just awesome. I understand the Mustang being common knock but for the drivers like US we can spot the 350 on the road. Just like a BMW guy can always spot the Ms out of the crowd. The GT350 looks awesome and the exhaust note would never get boring. However, I just can't get over how attractive the M4 is (to me). As an M4 "fanboy" I admit that when I see a GT350 pass by I look at it and say that's a very nice muscle car. And in the near future when the GT500 drives the GT350 prices down I'll be there lol.
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Great post and I agree with ya. I'll probably be following suit soon as well. But anyways, where's the pictures?!
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Congrats! Just got a 16 350R. Awesome car, shifter is great, suspension works wonders and engine/exhaust is epic. Downside is the size, feels a little big but getting used to it.
Pure sex man. GT350 is the best bang for your buck in performance, especially the R model. The magnetic suspension, sticky ass tires, transmission, and of course the FPC make it unreal for the money you pay and not many other brands can compare performance wise. That is just fact. I am a huge mustang guy and have had one of each pretty much. Great purchase.
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      08-21-2017, 12:28 AM   #102
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I was shopping the M4 and the GT 350 very closely. It was my first "big" sports car purchase and I wanted to get it right. I absolutely adore the GT350 and the engineering that Ford has put into the Voodoo is just awesome. I understand the Mustang being common knock but for the drivers like US we can spot the 350 on the road. Just like a BMW guy can always spot the Ms out of the crowd. The GT350 looks awesome and the exhaust note would never get boring. However, I just can't get over how attractive the M4 is (to me). As an M4 "fanboy" I admit that when I see a GT350 pass by I look at it and say that's a very nice muscle car. And in the near future when the GT500 drives the GT350 prices down I'll be there lol.
I love the GT350R in theory as well. I mean it is an amazing car. But I just CANNOT get over that interior. It is hideous. I have the newer Camaro and the interior is much nicer over the previous version but the Mustang just hasnt improved. The M3/4 to me is a much more pleasing interior. I know it is shallow and maybe stupid but I spend so much time in my car and not out of it that I have to find what I am looking at to be at least partially pleasing
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I love the GT350R in theory as well. I mean it is an amazing car. But I just CANNOT get over that interior. It is hideous. I have the newer Camaro and the interior is much nicer over the previous version but the Mustang just hasnt improved. The M3/4 to me is a much more pleasing interior. I know it is shallow and maybe stupid but I spend so much time in my car and not out of it that I have to find what I am looking at to be at least partially pleasing
If he has the upgraded interior it's not bad. It's actually a pleasant place to sit. M quality? I don't think so.

If he has the base interior (like I do). God rest his soul. It's so cheap. Plasticy. I'm not a fan. The only GOOD thing is it is SO easy to clean it. That's about it.
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I love the GT350R in theory as well. I mean it is an amazing car. But I just CANNOT get over that interior. It is hideous. I have the newer Camaro and the interior is much nicer over the previous version but the Mustang just hasnt improved. The M3/4 to me is a much more pleasing interior. I know it is shallow and maybe stupid but I spend so much time in my car and not out of it that I have to find what I am looking at to be at least partially pleasing
The upgraded interior with Recaros and Tech pack is not THAT bad. With all the alcantara it feels like a special place to sit. I've had friends get in the car and be pleasantly surprised. Apples to oranges with the BMW build quality, but for FWIW (literally), it's fine. I plan to wrap parts of the interior, including the headliner, in alcantara and install a few carbon bits to take it up a notch.

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If he has the upgraded interior it's not bad. It's actually a pleasant place to sit. M quality? I don't think so.

If he has the base interior (like I do). God rest his soul. It's so cheap. Plasticy. I'm not a fan. The only GOOD thing is it is SO easy to clean it. That's about it.
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The upgraded interior with Recaros and Tech pack is not THAT bad. With all the alcantara it feels like a special place to sit. I've had friends get in the car and be pleasantly surprised. Apples to oranges with the BMW build quality, but for FWIW (literally), it's fine. I plan to wrap parts of the interior, including the headliner, in alcantara and install a few carbon bits to take it up a notch.



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I made a amateur vid about my 1yr old gt350.
Wanna see unbiased opinion on it, go watch. Spoiler: its long and boring lol.

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The upgraded interior with Recaros and Tech pack is not THAT bad. With all the alcantara it feels like a special place to sit. I've had friends get in the car and be pleasantly surprised. Apples to oranges with the BMW build quality, but for FWIW (literally), it's fine. I plan to wrap parts of the interior, including the headliner, in alcantara and install a few carbon bits to take it up a notch.
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+2! installing alcantara parts this week on mine.
I actually went the other way and got rid of some alcantara. One of the few things I missed from my M3/4 was the steering wheel. I just installed a custom steering wheel and it is modeled after the M one. It is a thicker Nappa leather version and I like it a lot better than the thinner alcantara stock version.

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Love the GT350. I was actually a signature away from taking one home, but I just could not get over how big the car felt (bigger than my M3 which says a lot). Otherwise, it is one awesome car.
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Love the GT350. I was actually a signature away from taking one home, but I just could not get over how big the car felt (bigger than my M3 which says a lot). Otherwise, it is one awesome car.
Interesting thought. Most that have reviewed it say it shrinks around you and is very flat in the corners.

It's pretty close to the M3/4 weight.

I do feel the weight in my M3 when the car is trying to take a set line and you can feel the weight wanting to push you.
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Interesting thought. Most that have reviewed it say it shrinks around you and is very flat in the corners.

It's pretty close to the M3/4 weight.

I do feel the weight in my M3 when the car is trying to take a set line and you can feel the weight wanting to push you.
The first time I got behind the wheel I found the cockpit comfortable in size, however the car felt a bit bigger than expected while driving. The car has a lot of weight up front and a long hood. You can feel the added weight compared to the M3. However, once you drive the car for an hour or two, you immediately start feeling the car 'shrink around you' due to the tight steering and responsiveness. At first, I wasn't satisfied with the steering, but that was simply because I prefer a heavy wheel - once I found 'track' mode, I was immediately pleased. I drive the car around in track mode everywhere. IMHO, in addition to the magneride, the electric steering rack in the GT350 feels heaps better than the F80 M3.
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