Richard Hammond and Jeremy Clarkson Thrilled with BMW M4 in first reviews

[BMWbill]

Originally Posted by shortseller

Nothing funnier than sitting next to someone at a light and they go into launch control while waiting for the green(gee guess he wants a run). I use to get this all the time from Subaru race boys. ...When they would get a look at my Dinan blk tip exhaust. To bad they didn't realize I had stage 3 sw under the hood.

Not a fan of LC but it seems to be the only way BMW is going to break into exotic 0-60 times. Unfortunately I'm not getting it my MT option choice but I suspect I can do just as good with just dumping the clutch and I won't sound like a duche doing it.

I just read Motor Trend's "first drive" review of the M4 and also EVO magazine's M4 vs Jaguar review. in one of those reviews, they stated their fastest 0-60 of 4.1 was not while using launch control.

[lux]

Originally Posted by alpine92m3

Let me know when you see one for 56k lol my ass

You know they are quoting the price in pounds not dollars right?

UK price starts at £ 56,190.00 for an M3

https://www.bmw.co.uk/en_GB/index.html

[BMWbill]

Originally Posted by Chrisar82

"one of the best sounding cars in ages". Wait, what!? I don't think it sounds good at all . . . .

Oh, you have to sit inside it. Motor Trend says it is the best sounding BMW ever. But that is thanks to fake digital engine noise coming through the speakers!

[shortseller]

Originally Posted by alpine92m3

Let me know when you see one for 56k lol my ass

BMW has learned a valuable less from De Beers this time around, trickle them out slowly and let demand fight over them. They didn't use this strategy with the last Ms early on and got caught with a bunch sitting around on lots and dealers had to offer deals to get them sold.

With current production, re this first wave, dealers are loading them up with options, north of $90k in some cases, and do to the low/slow numbers of production out of BMW, dealers will probably get some, trend setters I suspect, to pay full MSRP and in some extreme cases, even over.

[gmd2003]

Originally Posted by BMWbill

I just read Motor Trend's "first drive" review of the M4 and also EVO magazine's M4 vs Jaguar review. in one of those reviews, they stated their fastest 0-60 of 4.1 was not while using launch control.

I'm not surprised the fastest guys at the strip in an M5/M6 with the same DCT don't use LC either . 1.76 60 ft all day long with DSC off using 285 toyo R888's . My fastest
1/4 mile and 0-60 in my M6 were using DSC off mash and go as well .
LC is only good for a perfect surface or laying down 200 ft of rubber for fun .

[BMWbill]

This is exactly how it was the last time I bought an M3- my 2004. There was a waiting list and a good deal was getting the car at MSRP as some were selling above MSRP! I never saw a single M3 on a lot in 2004. The dealers would have one in the showroom that nobody was allowed to test drive. I didn't mind paying MSRP ($60k) and ordering it the way I wanted. It wound up being the most reliable and one of the cheapest cars I have ever owned, as I still have it 10 years later and it hasn't hit 40k miles yet.

I never felt an urge to upgrade it to an E92 M3 but this M4 is a different story...

Originally Posted by shortseller

BMW has learned a valuable less from De Beers this time around, trickle them out slowly and let demand fight over them. They didn't use this strategy with the last Ms early on and got caught with a bunch sitting around on lots and dealers had to offer deals to get them sold.

With current production, re this first wave, dealers are loading them up with options, north of $90k in some cases, and do to the low/slow numbers of production out of BMW, dealers will probably get some, trend setters I suspect, to pay full MSRP and in some extreme cases, even over.

[shortseller]

Originally Posted by BMWbill

I just read Motor Trend's "first drive" review of the M4 and also EVO magazine's M4 vs Jaguar review. in one of those reviews, they stated their fastest 0-60 of 4.1 was not while using launch control.

Yeah I believe you are correct. But I have seen some numbers in the mid to hi 3s, which has to be with LC. Not a bad thing for the drag strip but as a DD, not so much IMO. But hey it's free with the $3000 tranny so why not.

[jonasaurus]

Originally Posted by Mr.Metak2you

lmao....wait, I like JC and Top Gear. Still funny.

Ha indeed.. I don't necessary find their options to be held on to but Top Gear is still entertaining!

[BlackCobra08]

Originally Posted by Damasconian

1 - I believe you.
2 - Where did you get this information, everything I have read is the opposite?
3 - I am a 6-MT 100% of the time, all the way so I really want this to be true.

It's on the official EPA website http://www.fueleconomy.gov and hell yes to number 3

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Yeah! No kidding.

Too bad it takes more than a nail to shut up the average uneducated forum poster that hasn't even driven the vehicle in question but wants to spew hate ( for BMW) from a keyboard. ....

[tony20009]

Fact Check?

I didn't realize the old M3 was also an E92. Thought that was the designation for the non-M 3-serise coupes.

The new M4 a second faster than the old M3? My E92 335i coupe ('07) was cited at 0-60 in 4.9 by BMW, and BMW being BMW, I know that was a conservative figure. How could the old M3 have been 5.1 for the same metric? Is it a UK vs. US difference?

All the best.

PS
Yes, the new M-cars are wonderful. Regardless of Mr. Hammond's accuracy on the points above, he's got that right.

[Staszek]

Originally Posted by tony20009

Fact Check?

I didn't realize the old M3 was also an E92. Thought that was the designation for the non-M 3-serise coupes.

The new M4 a second faster than the old M3? My E92 335i coupe ('07) was cited at 0-60 in 4.9 by BMW, and BMW being BMW, I know that was a conservative figure. How could the old M3 have been 5.1 for the same metric? Is it a UK vs. US difference?

All the best.

PS
Yes, the new M-cars are wonderful. Regardless of Mr. Hammond's accuracy on the points above, he's got that right.

They are talking 0-62 not 0-60

And all coupes were E92, both M and Non M.

[Walt Dockery]

Still, the full second faster comment seems off.

[myzmak]

Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

Too bad it takes more than a nail to shut up the average uneducated forum poster that hasn't even driven the vehicle in question but wants to spew hate ( for BMW) from a keyboard. ....

Exactly. They are like the undead. I am thinking stakes through heart, silver bullets, beheading, etc.

[325rider]

Damn, didnt know the e9x M did 0-60 in > 5.2 seconds!!!
Shit, O well I still love mine :d

[raffyg2388]

Originally Posted by Chrisar82

"one of the best sounding cars in ages". Wait, what!? I don't think it sounds good at all . . . .

Different strokes. I find the sound e46ish on steroids. I like it.

[ss134]

Originally Posted by lux

You know they are quoting the price in pounds not dollars right?

UK price starts at £ 56,190.00 for an M3

https://www.bmw.co.uk/en_GB/index.html

Correct, around $85000 before options although the UK cars come with a few options standard that are not standard in the US.

[solstice]

Lol, have you seen this one? Apparantly the M4 is more of a 5.6 - 5.9s car in some hands

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=jKD-_g6KlrU

[F3_BMW]

A little m4 drifting

[tooch]

Sounds great!! Thanks for posting

[Damasconian]

Originally Posted by shortseller

Yeah I believe you are correct. But I have seen some numbers in the mid to hi 3s, which has to be with LC. Not a bad thing for the drag strip but as a DD, not so much IMO. But hey it's free with the $3000 tranny so why not.

I just got the August issue of Motor Trend today. 0-60 was tested at 3.8 for M3, 3.9 for M4, both with the DCT. They even put those numbers up on the cover. Great shot of both cars!

[Jonnykin]

there is a difference between Imperial Gallons and U.S Gallons. so you can expect their number in the uk to be a bit different.