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06-26-2014, 06:47 PM | #68 |
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Wow...Thanks, got to get me that issue when it hits news stands.
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06-26-2014, 06:51 PM | #69 | |
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I am confused??? Seems there are opposite views from Top Gear.
From Top Gear magazine: "The Stingray really does make mincemeat of the BMW. The front sticks where you put it, the rear only breaks traction if provoked. The transition from slight understeer to languid, half-turn oversteer is gentle and controllable, the noise part- American muscle, part-enduro GT racer. Yes, the shift action is long and allows for too much rev drop between second and third, and Track mode is simply a bit hard for road work, but tap into the spirit of the Corvette, really make use of the incomparable brakes, and you realise just what a brilliant car this is. Engineered by people who really know what they’re doing. It might not have quite found the European quality groove, but it’s no particular trial, and at least it’s got a bit of character compared with the M4, which feels a bit too much like a pimped 335i for comfort. Here, on this road, there is no comparison. I’m almost loath to relinquish it." "We spend another day in the mountains doing pretty much the same thing, except with rather more stops for brake refreshment, and the results are invariably the same. The BMW M4 never comes alive. It has elements of greatness, but when it comes down to it, the newest M car never gives that extra dose of character that makes your brain fuzz with emotion. It’s fast, efficient and an excellent daily driver. It will also do quite spectacular skids. But it’s lost some of the sense of humour that previous Ms have had in spades. It feels staid and synthetic and, for me, it’s a huge disappointment. Not one person came forward in its defense." Quote:
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06-26-2014, 07:48 PM | #71 |
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Hope Clarkson doesn't buy an M4 otherwise it will go straight into the seriously uncool section of the cool wall as per their rules!
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Healthy amounts of torque are very intoxicating. Even my 335d gave a rush when stock, and with a tune or chip it is hard to resist using it often. I guess I need to test drive the M3 if possible.
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It isn't just one guy or two guys.
There are a dozen or so reviewers. Thus far: - initial first drive review was glowing (9/10) - Hammond loves it - clarkson said he wants one - the speed week review you quote less glowing. (As, as noted when it first showed up a week ago, the only generally negative review or commentary on the car so far) |
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please include something about hookers, if you can swing it. Someone might need that in order to answer accurately. Not me of course. But.. someone.
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Love Clarkson's point of view.
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Correct its true for the UK, but not NA I think?
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I just had a quick drive in an M4 this morning , absolutely awesome car , the sound and acceleration are second to none , if anything was to tempt me to swap my 1M it would be this !
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Also, there are at least two where he sings it's praised (one in a head to head with Audi (RS5?) and one when new comp pack came out. He didn't like that improvement (costs more, makes it worse) but sung praises of base car) ....these may be same clip......just recall the two different points. |
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It's funny, I've been a car guy for many years but I only recently realized there's a big difference between TORQUE and torque multiplied by gearing and put onto a curve that holds the torque over a long stretch of RPM.
I daily drive a vehicle producing around 650 lb/ft of torque (peak). However, that peak comes on early, it's geared very tall, it's tied to a sometimes lazy transmission, and the torque tapers as the revs climb. Lot less fun that way Can't wait to experience the HIGHER wheel torque (after gear multiplication) and the sustained torque delivery of the M3. |
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