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02-08-2017, 02:36 PM | #45 |
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Love the Alfa. Glad to see them making a comeback on US soil with a worthwhile car. Now if only they would scurry off and give us a compact 2 door coupe that takes aim at the M2. M2 size and performance with Italian style? Sign me up!
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02-08-2017, 02:38 PM | #46 |
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Yes, but he's great at reviewing cars. It's good to know how car feel to drive.
With Jason and Johnny, they're just yelling at each other half the time, and not being very funny at that. If I wanted comedy, Motor Trend is not where I'd go.
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02-08-2017, 02:40 PM | #47 |
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these guys are just clowns. they bash the m4 gts but praise the zcp m3?
zcp is a coded regular m3 for gods sake.
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02-08-2017, 02:52 PM | #48 | |
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I would consider trading mine in next year for a ZCP except that I have lower back issues and can't live without lumbar personally I think the ZCP isn't a bad price when you break everything out. Really only paying about $2,000 for the "tune" I like the Alfa but could have sworn I read a while ago it was going to be AWD, if it was I would consider trading the M3 for it. Guess I will have to wait for the RS5 sportback |
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02-08-2017, 02:53 PM | #49 |
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ZCP is worth it if you plan on staying stock. If you're going to run a 265/305 extreme performance tire setup with coilovers, is ZCP still worth it?
Not for me personally |
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02-08-2017, 02:54 PM | #50 |
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The Alfa is a fantastic car but the interior and the long term reliability would be the problems drag it down.
M is still greater then any other competitors.
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02-08-2017, 02:55 PM | #51 |
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Alpha is a risky choice, who knows how reliable it will be.
Honestly, I don't feel like the traditional alpha triangle grill doesn't look that great on the is car. It looks like a beak.
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02-08-2017, 03:05 PM | #53 |
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Just on the looks: M and C63 are both aging very well. I think both still look great. ATSV suddenly looks 12 years old to me. Alfa is obviously fresh but a welcome entrant.
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02-08-2017, 03:15 PM | #55 |
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02-08-2017, 03:21 PM | #56 | |
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I myself bought my car but switch up 2-4yrs. I think the problem with Alfa as a brand is its history and the unknown. So far a few reviews have mentioned problems with cars, again it happens to everyone. But if Alfa is not successful it could be killed off again in a few years, as we know FICA hasn't been doing well with car sales as whole beyond the Charger. I would like to buy one but will wait a year to see the Residuals and the likelihood of the brand being successful long-term. |
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02-08-2017, 03:44 PM | #58 |
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Alfa looks like an Infiniti Q50 to me. Not a fan of interior design / quality as well.
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BMW doesn't need to respond - just mount R-compound tires on the M3 ZCP and you will get better performance. Alfa is sort of cheating with 60 TW tires here.
In another Motortrend On-Demand video (Ignition), they also do a Alfa vs M3 hot lap at Thunderhill West (2 mile), and it the M3 also virtually ties it as it does here (but a little faster vice being a little slower here).
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I'm just here for all the blah-blah-blah, but I'd still take an M3 talk.
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"Ain't nobody don't love a V8". Ha!
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Dumb question. Is it possible to add the competition package on non-zcp m3? I bought my first m3 and wasnt aware of a zcp nor even told by the dealer when buying my car. Sucks. Or is it possible to swap just the exhaust and springs to gain same level on the car?
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