F81 M3 Rendering

mkoesel · 12-15-2013, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by paddy335

How come you guys don't get these wagons?! That's an outrage

We don't even have the A4 Avant (except for the Allroad) or C Class Estate for sale in the US anymore. And BMW only offers the 3 Touring with AWD and 4 cylinder engines. The market for wagons in the US is small unfortunately.

M3 Adjuster · 12-15-2013, 07:39 AM

Forwarded to a friend that is a. dog owner with an x3.

I think this is badass.

MKE_M3 · 12-15-2013, 08:54 AM

I will not be getting a new M3. If they made the wagon, I would.

SCOTT26 · 12-15-2013, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by mkoesel

We don't even have the A4 Avant (except for the Allroad) or C Class Estate for sale in the US anymore. And BMW only offers the 3 Touring with AWD and 4 cylinder engines. The market for wagons in the US is small unfortunately.

Yes even thought it is a much newer vehicle , the F31 is being outsold by the X1 and X3. Where that leaves the future of the Touring is unknown at this moment.

They are evaluating an additional M model for the M3 but it all comes down to first and second year sales. But this model so far , since launch has exceeded its projections and has not even been on sale for a year, if it will come it will be arriving in 2016.

bimmerjph · 12-15-2013, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SCOTT26

Yes even thought it is a much newer vehicle , the F31 is being outsold by the X1 and X3. Where that leaves the future of the Touring is unknown at this moment.

Although, BMWNA doesn't market the touring like they do the X3, so that needs to be taken into consideration when comparing the two's sales numbers.

aajami · 12-15-2013, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by SCOTT26

Yes even thought it is a much newer vehicle , the F31 is being outsold by the X1 and X3. Where that leaves the future of the Touring is unknown at this moment.

They are evaluating an additional M model for the M3 but it all comes down to first and second year sales. But this model so far , since launch has exceeded its projections and has not even been on sale for a year, if it will come it will be arriving in 2016.

If it's an additional M3 model and not an M4 model, then it can only be an M3 touring, M3 LWB, or M3 Gran Turismo. It's probably not an F81 and probably not a LWB, either.

Which means...

paddy335 · 12-15-2013, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by aajami

If it's an additional M3 model and not an M4 model, then it can only be an M3 touring, M3 LWB, or M3 Gran Turismo. It's probably not an F81 and probably not a LWB, either.

Which means...

LWB...what does that mean in the M3 context?

aajami · 12-15-2013, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by paddy335

LWB...what does that mean in the M3 context?

China-only long-wheel base version:

paddy335 · 12-15-2013, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by aajami

China-only long-wheel base version:

BAHAHAH, the reason I asked was cos I thought surely it doesn't mean LWB. Good old Chinese eh, just a completely unique market.

LWB M3...hahhah...

mkoesel · 12-15-2013, 02:36 PM

The ring taxi should be a LWB M3. Why the heavy M5? Bad enough with all the passengers in the thing.

Right?

PostModernHero · 12-15-2013, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by bimmerjph

Although, BMWNA doesn't market the touring like they do the X3, so that needs to be taken into consideration when comparing the two's sales numbers.

Exactly. BMW only WANTS you to buy an X3 here instead. They are manufactured here and as such, not subjected to tariffs. The X1, X3, and now 3GT all offered here with the N55! BMW can only be crippling wagon sales on purpose by severely limiting the drive train with only one option.

Because the wagon is now only offered with 4 banger and xDrive, I will NOT be trading in my E91 when the time comes. Instead, I will be driving it into the ground...

turbolag · 12-15-2013, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by clbmw

+1

So a car for every segment (bar the one we're discussing) yet they'll decide if you're allowed to buy it... Hmmm

We only get the A4 allroad in the US; not even the A4 avant. No C Klasse estate either. We only get 328i and 320d wagons.

):

EHDEN · 12-15-2013, 07:36 PM

f81 would look legit!

Hops128i · 12-16-2013, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by PostModernHero

Quote:

Originally Posted by bimmerjph

Although, BMWNA doesn't market the touring like they do the X3, so that needs to be taken into consideration when comparing the two's sales numbers.

Exactly. BMW only WANTS you to buy an X3 here instead. They are manufactured here and as such, not subjected to tariffs. The X1, X3, and now 3GT all offered here with the N55! BMW can only be crippling wagon sales on purpose by severely limiting the drive train with only one option.

Because the wagon is now only offered with 4 banger and xDrive, I will NOT be trading in my E91 when the time comes. Instead, I will be driving it into the ground...

wow, that makes total sense, didn't realize they only made trucks here ... yet another reason to add to my long list of hating SUVs

jbeene · 12-16-2013, 08:57 AM

I have an E90 M3 and an X1 for the kids and the dog. I was steered away from the new touring to the X1 purely on price. For a comparably equipped wagon (to the x1 I ended up buying) it was almost $20K more.

I've had many wagons, all BMW, and really miss the driving dynamics of a car for my winter driver/practical car. Even though the X1 is based on the E9x it can't hold a candle to my last MT Msport E91 touring for driving dynamics and space.

I think BMW has priced the touring out of the market. It's really easy to cross shop an Allroad and an X1. But cross the street to the BMW lot and the price goes up significantly for a similarly equipped car.

You can get an X1 with the N55 for less than a 328xit. The 3 Gt just seems dumb as well. Whose dog will fit back there?

I'd buy an M3 touring in a heartbeat.

Savory · 12-16-2013, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SCOTT26

Yes even thought it is a much newer vehicle , the F31 is being outsold by the X1 and X3. Where that leaves the future of the Touring is unknown at this moment.

They are evaluating an additional M model for the M3 but it all comes down to first and second year sales. But this model so far , since launch has exceeded its projections and has not even been on sale for a year, if it will come it will be arriving in 2016.

I have a feeling you are referring to the 3GT. If BMW makes an M3 GT, well, it's gonna be ugly

I'm all for a touring though

clbmw · 12-16-2013, 01:22 PM

A blue RS4 Avant pulled up next to me at an island this morning...

I have to confess I really like the look of it... Now if only there was a BMW equivalent for me to like.

sq86 · 12-16-2013, 06:34 PM

I can always dream...

Dawko · 12-17-2013, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Savory

I have a feeling you are referring to the 3GT. If BMW makes an M3 GT, well, it's gonna be ugly

I'm all for a touring though

Autocar UK also mentions the M3 GT in another unrelated article:
M3 GT article

Personally I'd prefer to see a M4 GC, but this leads to a lot of discussions

solstice · 12-17-2013, 01:53 AM

Oh yes, I'd might consider that instead of the sedan or coupe. I regard the E60 M5 Touring as one of the coolest cars ever made, though the E60 M5 sedan is one notch up.

Imola.ZHP · 12-18-2013, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by kmarei

No
There was a M5 E34
I remember it was in a nice blue with dark grey lower panels
Looks mean, for its time

Cool, it wasn't listed on Wikipedia, only the e39 and e60 were, so I didn't include it in my post. Thanks for the info!

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