2016 BMW M4 GTS Testing with Bigger Rear Wing on the Nurburgring

[RingMeister01]

Originally Posted by TahoeM3

Exactly. You don't see that kind of wing on a 458 speciale, and it looks silly on this car. A good pronounced rear lip spoiler like the one on the Z06 and other active aero bits would look much better and would provide plenty of downforce.

You must think the gt3ts looks like a bad cartoon as well?

[aajami]

Originally Posted by RingMeister01

You must think the gt3ts looks like a bad cartoon as well?

Doesn't it?

[RingMeister01]

Originally Posted by aajami

Doesn't it?

Totally :

[Revcrazy]

Originally Posted by solstice

It's a track version of the M4. It only has one mission, too be as fast as it can on the track while still being street legal. The M4 fills the niche of being a good value sporty but practical and reasonably comfortable and luxurious street car that can do track duty. The GTS does not need to adhere in the same extent to those compromises. A huge wing is expected since down force ( and good track tires ) will make best use of the M4s power curve to improve the average speed around a track. There's enough power to not let the added drag bring down top speed too much on most tracks and the wing will help catapult the car early out of turns. This thing will be a surprise to revcrazy and his crowd I love how it looks on the track, exciting.

It won't. They are and will always be way off the pace set by the big boys. Just like the m3 GTS couldn't hang with a 996 GT3 RS which was 11 year old at the time this will be LUCKY if it can keep pace with a 2007 Base GT3. 2007 party in 2017 and still losing. LOL

[solstice]

Pretty much all race cars have large fixed wings, it's only natural that track versions of street legal cars get them as well. Ferrari is an exception not the norm. However the base 458's aero that the speciale is based on is on another level the the 4-series. BMW is absolutely doing the right thing by adding a large wing to the GTS, especially to make best use of the power curve with all that midrange grunt.

[TahoeM3]

Originally Posted by RingMeister01

You must think the gt3ts looks like a bad cartoon as well?

Well, I wouldn't drive it on the street, I'll say that. But it's fine as a track car. The giant cheese cutter wing actually fits better on a 911 because of the downsloping shape of the rear, whereas on the M3/M4 it looks completely out of place.

[tallshortguy]

Originally Posted by Revcrazy

It won't. They are and will always be way off the pace set by the big boys. Just like the m3 GTS couldn't hang with a 996 GT3 RS which was 11 year old at the time this will be LUCKY if it can keep pace with a 2007 Base GT3. 2007 party in 2017 and still losing. LOL

lol I like how he didn't even bring up Porsches specifically and you just couldn't resist yourself.

haha I'm challenging you to actually post something, anything, that has nothing to do with Porsches. Then again that's probably too much of a mountain for you to climb over.

[K19BMW]

Originally Posted by N & M

Moves beautifully but BMW is cutting edge in every area except aero; when will we see the introduction of proper active aero into its performance cars?

Please no washboard wings.

Cutting edge except for aero and interiors

[RingMeister01]

Originally Posted by Revcrazy

It won't. They are and will always be way off the pace set by the big boys. Just like the m3 GTS couldn't hang with a 996 GT3 RS which was 11 year old at the time this will be LUCKY if it can keep pace with a 2007 Base GT3. 2007 party in 2017 and still losing. LOL

Losing? As if any of your comments have the slightest credibility. The 911 is completely overrated and anything and everything Porsche does is somehow always acceptable to their fan boys. "Hi I'm the 991RS, I have super cool aero that you'll never use on the street and 21" rims to rival Rich Ross' Phantom. Please buy me in Mexico Blue and park me at Starbucks for all to envy."

I've owned a 996 GT2 and 997 GT3 for the record.

[K19BMW]

Originally Posted by tallshortguy

lol I like how he didn't even bring up Porsches specifically and you just couldn't resist yourself.

haha I'm challenging you to actually post something, anything, that has nothing to do with Porsches. Then again that's probably too much of a mountain for you to climb over.

No need to get all worked up.
Its like how everyone compares cars to the M3. Its because bmw is the benchmark for midsize performance sedans. The same can be said about Porsche in terms of track cars.

[tallshortguy]

Originally Posted by K19BMW

No need to get all worked up.
Its like how everyone compares cars to the M3. Its because bmw is the benchmark for midsize performance sedans. The same can be said about Porsche in terms of track cars.

ha nah it's not me getting worked up, just having some fun if you don't know who revcrazy is.

[hellrotm]

Originally Posted by tallshortguy

haha I'm challenging you to actually post something, anything, that has nothing to do with Porsches. Then again that's probably too much of a mountain for you to climb over.

Impossible. He even uses two different screen names to spew his Porsche fanboyism. Revcrazy is also Wolfinwolfsclothing.

[Jim B]

Originally Posted by bluekn8286

This car looks amazing; definitely won't be anything less than 110K or so.

Probably more to the "or so". It will probably be significantly lighter than the regular M4. In a major part of its program of weight reduction, BMW will make sure your wallet will be much lighter as well.

[Revcrazy]

Originally Posted by K19BMW

No need to get all worked up.
Its like how everyone compares cars to the M3. Its because bmw is the benchmark for midsize performance sedans. The same can be said about Porsche in terms of track cars.

Porsche is the benchmark for sports cars and any segment they compete. Nothing else comes close. And there is fierce competition against everyone always aiming for the 911 yet none for 50 plus years have accomplished.

Bmw is the benchmark for the mid size sedan category but there isn't a lot of competition in that segment.

[48Laws]

Originally Posted by solstice

Pretty much all race cars have large fixed wings, it's only natural that track versions of street legal cars get them as well. Ferrari is an exception not the norm. However the base 458's aero that the speciale is based on is on another level the the 4-series. BMW is absolutely doing the right thing by adding a large wing to the GTS, especially to make best use of the power curve with all that midrange grunt.

Yeah, but it looks like a wart on the M3. It doesn't flow well with the lines of the m3. Sorry.

[48Laws]

Originally Posted by BlackJetE90

Impossible. He even uses two different screen names to spew his Porsche fanboyism. Revcrazy is also Wolfinwolfsclothing.

Being a fanboy is using conjecture to argue. Omitting facts to argue. From what I've read, not much one can argue against Porsche being the benchmark of performance. That doesn't make BMW lesser. It's just the facts.

[hellrotm]

Originally Posted by 48Laws

Being a fanboy is using conjecture to argue. Omitting facts to argue. From what I've read, not much one can argue against Porsche being the benchmark of performance. That doesn't make BMW lesser. It's just the facts.

You aren't familiar with this member and his posts.

[f82mw]

Is that stock suspension ?

[solstice]

Originally Posted by 48Laws

Yeah, but it looks like a wart on the M3. It doesn't flow well with the lines of the m3. Sorry.

Function over form. It's not bad looking, better than this for example:



What will look bad is pussy footing this thing around a track and being passed bi Miatas etc. It needs to move

[solstice]

Originally Posted by Michael_

Is that stock suspension ?

Stock M4, no way.

[FilipMPower]

Originally Posted by K19BMW

Cutting edge except for aero and interiors

Meeeh, who cares about the interior? I think it's fine! But aero is really needed here. I'm sure the M4 was designed to have as little drag as possible. The M4 has no downforce whatsoever anyway, this huuuge wing compensates for it.

[RingMeister01]

Originally Posted by Michael_

Is that stock suspension ?

Prob KW V3 or equal