Introducing the BMW M4 GTS Concept (photos from Pebble Beach)

[Jason]

Latest GTS production prototype has been spotted @ http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1163125

[solstice]

Originally Posted by ex o

Dat GT3RS....

Bah, riiiicer

[x.shell]

Originally Posted by solstice

Bah, riiiicer

Bah, saaaauerkrauter.

[fuddman]

Originally Posted by Boss330

Reading all these similar comments on the GTS it's interesting to see how focused people on this forum are on the looks of the car, NOT performance.

Actually, when laying out this much money, people expect both looks and performance. Doesn't seem unreasonable, to me. With the M4 GTS, they're only going to get the latter and they know that. Hence, the grumpiness, IMO.

The thing to keep in mind is the M4 GTS is a temporary car, put together relatively quickly (slapped together, maybe?). It's a bridge, if you will, to the car which promises to have both looks and performance for the money. That would be a variant of the other reveal at Pebble Beach - the 3.0 CSL.

[adc]

Originally Posted by fuddman

Actually, when laying out this much money, people expect both looks and performance. Doesn't seem unreasonable, to me. With the M4 GTS, they're only going to get the latter and they know that. Hence, the grumpiness, IMO.

The thing to keep in mind is the M4 GTS is a temporary car, put together relatively quickly (slapped together, maybe?). It's a bridge, if you will, to the car which promises to have both looks and performance for the money. That would be a variant of the other reveal at Pebble Beach - the 3.0 CSL.

I very much doubt that the 3.0 CSL will be produced, that is more of a styling concept than anything else. No single-platform performance coupe will be produced by BMW in any appreciable timeframe; the cost is prohibitive and the market non-existent.

The M4 GTS is not a temporary anything, BMW has been thinking about it since day 1.

In regards to the looks, as I understand it most people are complaining about the dashes of orange paint misguidedly applied to wheels or a section of the front spoiler. Quite another good chunk of posts have been appreciative of the overall styling.

I think it's a tremendous statement of intent, and I hope they only produce it in one uncomfortable color - perhaps an acid green - to weed out all the wannabe racers, so that only committed track junkies buy them.


Unfortunately I know exactly how it will play out. After a short period of contemplation the posers will realize that their previously cool looking spoilers and other tasteful bits are no longer standing out, and will demand of the tuners and fabricators to replicate the GTS front spoiler, wing and hood. 2 years from now all the slammed M4's will look exactly like this car.

[fuddman]

Originally Posted by adc

I very much doubt that the 3.0 CSL will be produced, that is more of a styling concept than anything else.

You're doubts are not justified, according to Scott26.
Read the last line in post 47 in the following thread. Possible reveal next year.
http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...1#post18438501

[adc]

Originally Posted by fuddman

You're doubts are not justified, according to Scott26.
Read the last line in post 47 in the following thread. Possible reveal next year.
http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...1#post18438501

He mentions an M4 CSL, not the 3.0 CSL homage. Meaning, an even more lightened version of the GTS and not a completely new car, on a bespoke body and chassis like the 3.0 concept presents.

Technically they could create a wide body M4 variant but since it wouldn't be used for racing (the M6 GT3 takes care of that), then what could possibly be the purpose?

I'll keep my doubts and be pleasantly surprised if it happens. It would probably be introduced by the Easter Bunny at Santa's secret M factory at the North Pole.

[fuddman]

Originally Posted by adc

I'll keep my doubts and be pleasantly surprised if it happens.

OK. As you wait, keep a sharp eye for a car like this one.

[MFNATIK]

Originally Posted by fuddman

OK. As you wait, keep a sharp eye for a car like this one.

BMW NEEDS to make this!!!!! This is a halo car!!!

[adc]

Originally Posted by fuddman

OK. As you wait, keep a sharp eye for a car like this one.

Sorry, i dont live inside the PlayStation.

It'll be a long wait.

[aus]

Originally Posted by Boss330

Does the 991 GT3 RS have dive planes?

I would also think that dive planes are a challenge for road homologation, even though it at least was possible to have them legal for the road. However the 991 GT3 RS doesn't have any dive planes. Perhaps due to more stringent legislation on exterior projections on bodywork for street use?

And remember that the protruding lip on the GTS splitter, in it's extended position, is only legal on the track. On the street it's only the carbonfibre part that is legal and will be visible.

Strange, because I remember reading on them and was surprised at how much downforce they actually produced.
Even with that splitter retracted, it's still pretty damn low. I now I'd scrape at my usual gas station and definitely at work... not that I would drive it to work.
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Found them on the 997 GT3 RS 4.0.

http://suncoastparts.com/product/RS40DPS.html


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[yosman8]

Do you guys think we'll be able to retrofit the OLED tails with a special harness + coding like we're seeing for the LCI tails?

[adc]

Originally Posted by yosman8

Do you guys think we'll be able to retrofit the OLED tails with a special harness + coding like we're seeing for the LCI tails?

I think they may need a new light control module, some new hardware to drive them.

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by Boss330

Does the 991 GT3 RS have dive planes?

I would also think that dive planes are a challenge for road homologation, even though it at least was possible to have them legal for the road. However the 991 GT3 RS doesn't have any dive planes. Perhaps due to more stringent legislation on exterior projections on bodywork for street use?

And remember that the protruding lip on the GTS splitter, in it's extended position, is only legal on the track. On the street it's only the carbonfibre part that is legal and will be visible.

The GT3RS 4.0 has dive planes.

[Boss330]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

The GT3RS 4.0 has dive planes.

You mean the 997 generation? I know that the previous gen had dive planes, that's why I asked whether the 991 GT3 RS had dive planes

BTW, the 991 GT3 RS is also a 4.0

Does anyone know the front aero downforce on the 997 GT3 RS 4.0? I suspect the 991 GT3 RS has more downforce without the dive planes, due to the air outlets in the front fenders.

[Manbnda]

Originally Posted by PCR0303

Anyone else notice that the wheels are pretty similar to the G90 M5 prototype ones? Future M wheel style to come?

I don't think they are precisely pretty, but I like the fact that they look like some geometric satanic shape, very aggressive.

[aus]

Originally Posted by fuddman

OK. As you wait, keep a sharp eye for a car like this one.

I'm not a huge fan of turbo engines for track cars, but I'd buy that when my car dies.
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[dmk08]

Originally Posted by Manbnda

I don't think they are precisely pretty, but I like the fact that they look like some geometric satanic shape, very aggressive.

They are the M666 no? lol

[mhjeep]

It had been bugging me seeing the frozen gray with acid orange combo on the GTS. Then this morning, I saw why. See below:

[mkoesel]

I actually like the Juke wheel design better (not that I am saying they are great, mind you).

[mrjbb77]

I know it's supposed to be form over function with this thing, but my Goodness, is this thing hideous!! I wouldn't even buy it with any of you guys's money!