F80 M3 / F82 M4 Break-In, Engine Oil, Launch Control Tidbits from Owners Manual

[VCP]

Break in on the Ring, then ship it please

[davem3fan]

Goodbye Castrol!

[uae247]

I have ordered an Alpine White with DCT
Was doubting cause of the super complicated launch control

Now
It is just easy
No need to think
But
Clutches will be abused

[Damasconian]

This is great information. My big question is about European Delivery.

For those of us who are patient enough to wait, taking an M4 on ED is like a Golfer going to Scotland to play the old courses - a life dream. But how much fun can you have on the Autobahn or Nurburgring if you cant take the car above 5500 RPM? I guess you have to take it easy, but come on NURBURGRING!

To close out the golf analogy, limiting RPMs to 5500 for the first 1200 miles is equal to not being able to play fairways on those courses. Is it worth the cost and hassle? TBD I guess.

[m3ct]

Originally Posted by southlight

DCT switches automatically into manual mode upon using the paddles.

Awesome, I was hoping so. Thanks for the post!

[Ash83]

Any info if the car will count how many LCs? and limit it?

[IND-Distribution]

Excellent! Love the old E46 M3 tach lights!

[AtlantaDude]

Originally Posted by Damasconian

This is great information. My big question is about European Delivery.

For those of us who are patient enough to wait, taking an M4 on ED is like a Golfer going to Scotland to play the old courses - a life dream. But how much fun can you have on the Autobahn or Nurburgring if you cant take the car above 5500 RPM? I guess you have to take it easy, but come on NURBURGRING!

To close out the golf analogy, limiting RPMs to 5500 for the first 1200 miles is equal to not being able to play fairways on those courses. Is it worth the cost and hassle? TBD I guess.

BECAUSE NURBURGRING!!!

[absoluteis350]

Originally Posted by Damasconian

This is great information. My big question is about European Delivery.

For those of us who are patient enough to wait, taking an M4 on ED is like a Golfer going to Scotland to play the old courses - a life dream. But how much fun can you have on the Autobahn or Nurburgring if you cant take the car above 5500 RPM? I guess you have to take it easy, but come on NURBURGRING!

To close out the golf analogy, limiting RPMs to 5500 for the first 1200 miles is equal to not being able to play fairways on those courses. Is it worth the cost and hassle? TBD I guess.

A truly determined driver can put in 1200 miles break-in in two days.. That leaves you the rest of the week to go nuts ! No pain, no gain

[Black Gold]

Originally Posted by Jesal@IND

Excellent! Love the old E46 M3 tach lights!

me too, one of the coolest features on that car. loved em in my old one!

[MickeyM3]

Originally Posted by absoluteis350

A truly determined driver can put in 1200 miles break-in in two days.. That leaves you the rest of the week to go nuts ! No pain, no gain

Not quite...it goes back to dealer for fluid changes after 1200 miles.

[Crisp]

Originally Posted by solstice

Doing break-in is going to be soooooo much less painful than in the E9X. With the F8X you can use full power from 0 miles.

"As with any other current or late M model, break-in period is 2,000 km or 1,200 miles. During that time, maximum engine speed should not exceed 5,500 RPM"

Refresh of power data:

425 HP from 5500-7300 RPM
406 LB-FT torque from 1850-5500 RPM

When they state "avoid full throttle" and "do not exceed 5.5k", I think that goes hand in hand with full engine load. The motor car be fully loaded below 5.5k even if you don't apply full throttle. So I think they mean that you shouldn't be fully loading the motor (i.e. do not use full torque) during the brake-in period.

Just my interpretation.

[pkimM3r]

Originally Posted by ///Mobbin

Thanks for sharing!

Is this part talking about shifting into neutral by pulling both paddles?
(coveted feature on 911 GT3's)

Attachment 1004596

See this article for a discussion of "Paddle Neutral" in GT3's.

2014 911 GT3 Review

Originally Posted by GreasyGinzo

too bad they didn't add the feature like the PDK has on the 991 gt3 where if you pull both paddles it will disengage the clutchs

why is everyone on porsches nuts for this pull both paddle for N? Its been on ferraris and lambos for how long now?? :

[pkimM3r]

Originally Posted by southlight

DCT switches automatically into manual mode upon using the paddles.


Best regards,
south

even in D mode? maybe MDCT is different....on my wife's 135i DCT if you shift in D mode, it will resume auto mode if shifting stops. in S mode, it wo'nt shift.

[southlight]

Originally Posted by SlowSaloonM3

even in D mode? maybe MDCT is different....on my wife's 135i DCT if you shift in D mode, it will resume auto mode if shifting stops. in S mode, it wo'nt shift.

Yep, even in D mode. Once you shift yourself it goes into manual mode and won't return to D by itself.


Best regards,
south

[VCP]

Originally Posted by absoluteis350

A truly determined driver can put in 1200 miles break-in in two days.. That leaves you the rest of the week to go nuts ! No pain, no gain

[Bigiggs]

Originally Posted by solstice

Doing break-in is going to be soooooo much less painful than in the E9X. With the F8X you can use full power from 0 miles.

"As with any other current or late M model, break-in period is 2,000 km or 1,200 miles. During that time, maximum engine speed should not exceed 5,500 RPM"

Refresh of power data:

425 HP from 5500-7300 RPM
406 LB-FT torque from 1850-5500 RPM

Nice observation but you should refrain from going WOT, in which case it would be hard to get the turbos spooling fast enough to feel some of that beastly torque before pulling the next gear to reduce engine speed.

[The Automotive Enthusiast]

Not having to turn off DSC is going to help immensely for Launch Control. Thankfully, it's also now easier to turn on.

[Maddict3]

so happy they simplified launch control!

[ixse]

hopefully US specs actually get full launch cOntrol.. not some clutch dump bs..

[aajami]

Originally Posted by GreasyGinzo

too bad they didn't add the feature like the PDK has on the 991 gt3 where if you pull both paddles it will disengage the clutchs

The PDK unit in the 991 GT3 is nice, but by and large, M-DCT is a better implementation of dual-clutch technology than the PDK in all other (non-GT3) Porsches.

In all other Porsche cars, PDK includes things like dropping into neutral when you coast; crawling from a stop; and pushing to upshift and pulling to downshift. Interestingly enough, the GT3's PDK doesn't have any of these quirks.

[The Automotive Enthusiast]

Originally Posted by aajami

The PDK unit in the 991 GT3 is nice, but by and large, M-DCT is a better implementation of dual-clutch technology than the PDK in all other (non-GT3) Porsches.

In all other Porsche cars, PDK include things like dropping into neutral when you coast; crawling from a stop; and pushing to upshift and pulling to downshift. Interestingly enough, the GT3's PDK doesn't have any of these quirks.

BMW does it with the ZF 8 Speed when in ECO PRO mode. It's so annoying because you feel a kick when the transmission re-engages a gear. A DCT implementation should be smoother.