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You can have a fully loaded, Competition Packaged M4/M3 for less than the base price of a GT4. That's still a good deal and something I would have seriously considered before I got my GT4. Regardless, the F8X is a great car even without the package, but if someone was on the fence, I'd say, "go for it!" Last edited by csbear; 01-13-2016 at 09:20 PM.. |
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For me the success of this package will depend on if it changes how the car puts its power down. If it helps traction and increases handling predictability it will be worth it. Like many, I'm not a fan of the wheels but I'm sure I would warm up to them.
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I recently ordered my F80. I'm not fussed about this comp pack given the standard one already has seats, CF bits and plenty of power. And not a fan of the wheels or cutouts in the seats.
Maybe look into recoding the M diff and dsc if it's not hardware specific ie comp suspension. |
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01-13-2016, 09:19 PM | #116 |
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That e92 throwback picture tho
And y'all bitching about rims but majority of the people here end up changing em or coating them regardless ðŸ˜
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01-13-2016, 09:22 PM | #117 |
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Do the springs add a drop to the ride height like the E9X ZCP had a 10mm drop? Can't tell by the pictures, but I think it will be lower than a stock F8X suspension. The wheels are bigger, I wonder if they gave it a drop. Thoughts?
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01-13-2016, 09:22 PM | #118 |
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To me, it is a very good value. Pity they didn't include MPE, CF rear diffuser, CF splitters, and front lip for a slightly higher price ($8,959).
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When you stop and think that the new wheels are already included (which, whether you like them or not, avoids you from having to pay the $1,200.00 for upgrading to the style 437 19" wheels) and the M Adaptive Suspension is already included (normally a $1,000.00 upgrade) - that is $2,200.00 in upgrades that probably most people pay anyway on non-CP M3/M4's - which in turn makes the remaining CP features come out to $3,300.00 - a much more compelling value proposition...
I agree with the posts above - if the overall effect of the CP in terms of driving dynamics, putting power to the ground, etc. is "greater than the sum of its individual parts," well then this CP could really be the best CP value ever offered by the M Division (in terms of what you get per dollar - which already works out much better than the ZCP for the E9x generation). Will be curious to see the difference in lap times for CP vs. non-CP equipped cars... |
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I've also said to people asking for advice deciding between an M car vs a series car (possibly with mods to the latter) that if all that person will be doing is driving on city streets and freeways, with no track time and not even any meaningful amount of time on fun back roads, then while an M car is still more fun than the series car even in that mundane commuting type of driving, in my opinion it isn't more fun by an amount that justifies its much higher total cost of ownership if that's the only way the car will be experienced. Of course the value of a given amount of money will vary from person to person, but generally people asking whether to spring for an M car or stick to a base series car aren't the ones for whom cost is no object.
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I suppose I would buy it, as others have pointed out, it's only $3,300 if you were already going to upgrade your wheels and get adaptive suspension.
That said, I'm not disappointed that I didn't wait for this. I'll probably check the box when my lease is up - why not, gives me something to look forward to! |
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The release brochure and press release says 500hp. 500-444=56 : I'm just using the release statements and brochures provided by BMW. Some sites say the gts is 493hp..but some articles say the f80 has 430hp. All underrated numbers anyway. Just curious that's all. Gts is still superior in almost every way, just happy to see the comp pkg come out and actually improve several parts of the car
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Interesting, didn't know that. I don't follow the regular series cars very closely, but thanks! Do you know the aspects of the tires on those sizes? That might give a clue as to what BMW will do here.
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My dream ZCP would have been combo of suspension tweaks as presented here, MPE, updated 359 y-style 19" wheel design, one unique paint color, M-Alcantara on standard seats and GTS water injection / HP.
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I will check the box just for the seats, seat belts and suspension updates alone. Wheels can always be swapped out later. This is a no brainier and I am glad I waited. Especially for those of us who don't like to mod the engine / suspension.
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Edit: FYI, just checked out getbmwparts and they have 4-5 different 20 inch choices from $3495. Last edited by minn19; 01-13-2016 at 10:03 PM.. |
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