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      12-01-2013, 09:39 AM   #23
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Was gonna say an addl 1.0L and 2 cylinders less the turbos lol.

But doesnt the car have cfrp ducktail boot already?
Not the F80, iirc.

And <3 S65. Unless the S55 is 2JZ levels of amazing, nope I'm avoiding it.
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      12-01-2013, 10:56 AM   #24
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      12-01-2013, 11:07 AM   #25
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Multiple blue color choices.

A Red color that isn't orangey.
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      12-01-2013, 11:16 AM   #26
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No valvetronic, velocity stacks
You'd have to take out the turbos then as well.

Then again, that isn't necessarily a bad thing.
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      12-01-2013, 12:00 PM   #27
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I'll have a hard time ordering this car if it doesn't have LED tail lights. Audi has been doing it since 2005.
BMW started doing LED tails on the 3 series in 2003.
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      12-01-2013, 04:13 PM   #28
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LS7 os LS9 block
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      12-01-2013, 07:52 PM   #29
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Multiple blue color choices.

A Red color that isn't orangey.
Agree. This is a very simple request and it seems very odd that it was not a pre requisite from the beginning.
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      12-02-2013, 10:49 AM   #30
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I'll have a hard time ordering this car if it doesn't have LED tail lights. Audi has been doing it since 2005.
BMW started doing LED tails on the 3 series in 2003.
And then takes them out with the introduction of every new 3-series. I don't understand this thinking.
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So, this MAY actually exist on the car (haven't spent enough time in a well optioned 3er), but the M5 I drove did not have this capability.

The cars usually have a setting where you can set a buzzer or something to come on at a preset speed. As far as I know, NO ONE ever uses these settings, since you drive on all sorts of different roads.

Also, the new BMW's can be had with an optional speed limit camera thing that 'reads' speed limit signs and displays the info on the Nav screen and/or HUD.

Why are these not linked? I would totally use the buzzer if I could link it either to the speed limit (or preferably indexed to the speed limit). If you could set that buzzer to "Speed limit +X" (where X could be whatever you want - 10 mph for example), then I would get an awesome reminder next time I'm bombing down the highway, and the speed limit changes without me noticing or whatever.

Make this happen BMW! The hardware is there, just needs a few lines of code.
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      12-02-2013, 12:37 PM   #32
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I wish they had gone back to the true m3, an N/A 4-cylinder design.

Barring that, I wish they would have gone back to the true m3: an inline six N/A design used for 2 generations.

Barring that, I wish they would have gone back to a high-revving N/A v8 that had crappy fuel economy and poor low end torque.

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But NoooOOO...BMW had to go all twin turbo inline six with better fuel economy, better tunability (potentially), better torque.....
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      12-02-2013, 01:02 PM   #33
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add this to the "list"

the option in iDrive to disable activesound (engine noise piped through sound system)
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0-60 less than 4 secs

And better track time than the domestic muscle cars. (not that I care but that is what every M driver claims)

I sure hope they left some allowance for us the be able to tweak the Turbos.....

But i think I am asking for too much this time when a S6 or AMG 63 will blow us off the line and Mustang, Camaro and the new Vette will out perform around the track.
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      12-02-2013, 02:54 PM   #35
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LS7 os LS9 block
I'd be at the dealership, today, with cash if this were true. LS7 would weigh less than the S55, make an additional 100hp/80 ft.lb, weigh less, and you could strip all of that extra cooling crap out of the engine bay. And the mod potential is nearly endless...
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I'd be at the dealership, today, with cash if this were true. LS7 would weigh less than the S55, make an additional 100hp/80 ft.lb, weigh less, and you could strip all of that extra cooling crap out of the engine bay. And the mod potential is nearly endless...
Haha....yeh and BMW would have created one of the great sales flops everywhere in the world except Nth Am
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I'd be at the dealership, today, with cash if this were true. LS7 would weigh less than the S55, make an additional 100hp/80 ft.lb, weigh less, and you could strip all of that extra cooling crap out of the engine bay. And the mod potential is nearly endless...
not to mention probs get the same MPG.
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      12-02-2013, 03:34 PM   #38
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0-60 less than 4 secs

And better track time than the domestic muscle cars. (not that I care but that is what every M driver claims)

I sure hope they left some allowance for us the be able to tweak the Turbos.....

But i think I am asking for too much this time when a S6 or AMG 63 will blow us off the line and Mustang, Camaro and the new Vette will out perform around the track.
domestic muscle cars are going to get updated though. there is talk of the new mustang going to be lighter and have 450HP.

i think the days are over when the European sports cars are clearly better performers. of course i think European cars looks better and offer more in other things.
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      12-02-2013, 03:52 PM   #39
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rear wheel steering for those super-tight turns LOL
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domestic muscle cars are going to get updated though. there is talk of the new mustang going to be lighter and have 450HP.

i think the days are over when the European sports cars are clearly better performers. of course i think European cars looks better and offer more in other things.
100% Agreed.
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BMW started doing LED tails on the 3 series in 2003.
But not consistently. The E90 and F30 pre-LCI's don't have it. Neither did the E46 sedan/wagon, iirc. The E60 5ers didn't have it either, nor did the E82 1ers. Actually, the F25 X3 doesn't have it either.

Meanwhile, the LEDs were on the B8 A4, C6 A6, whateveritis A8, A3, and just about everything.
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      12-03-2013, 01:29 AM   #42
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I'll have a hard time ordering this car if it doesn't have LED tail lights. Audi has been doing it since 2005.
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But not consistently. The E90 and F30 pre-LCI's don't have it. Neither did the E46 sedan/wagon, iirc. The E60 5ers didn't have it either, nor did the E82 1ers. Actually, the F25 X3 doesn't have it either.

Meanwhile, the LEDs were on the B8 A4, C6 A6, whateveritis A8, A3, and just about everything.
Agreed.
LED's are standard on exotics like Pruis' and Kia's, Hyundai's. But not until the LCI on BMW's.

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      12-03-2013, 08:15 AM   #43
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lol gotta luv all these v8 comments.. only in america.. bigger is better.. all hell will break loose when the vette n mustangs start coming out w FI engines
These people are the ones want to show off to their friends that the car as a MIGHTY V8! Cause now, boys can't brag to the Vette and Stangs and will feel emasculated lol.

As always I'm 100% sure that more than half of M owners will never go to the track. So V8 is just bragging rights, just like people with V8/10 SUVs who never towed anything and only drive in the city.


That being said...

I want AWD for the M4 so it can compete with the RS5 and the future AMG AWD.
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      12-03-2013, 09:50 AM   #44
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Current specs are just fine. Any engine upgrade to a v8 will be in a different martlet such as the m5 market. The s65 motor lacked a lot of things. The new motor is making up for it
What does s65 lack?

Im still confused to these comments.

S2k and my current car are my favorite so far. High revving engines that scream to 9k rpm. What do you think the gt3 does?
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