After your F8x M3/M4, are you going to get a G8x M3/M4?

[GOLFFRR]

game plan is to have one when they come out.

[gatorfast]

I will definitely consider it. The M3 is usually the best blend of performance, fun, practicality, and luxury.

[logicalunit]

I think the Porsche Mission-E, so NO.

The contrast between the EU (or some countries at least) and the US is surreal. Due to our taxes, EV's are a lot (A LOT) cheaper, especially compared to something like the F8x (what already is perceived as something irrational to buy anyways). No doubt the next gen M3/4 will improve on emissions, but still, it will be difficult to justify ... at least if an EV with double the sticker price, still is cheaper from a total cost of ownership perspective.

[cotmfk]

A few reasons I probably will at least skip a generation:

1) Cars keep getting bigger. The current M4 is as big as I want to go. The F80 is basically the same size as the old school E39 M5. I'm not looking to drive a Cadillac here.

2) Manual - no manual, no care.

3) I'm still having fun with the current car.

4) I don't want AWD.

5) I opted for no driver assistance package. This may not be an option in the future and may be mandatory. I hate those systems on my own, personal car. Such a waste of money, extra weight, etc.

6) As newer cars get "better" they also seem to be losing "soul." In all likelihood, I'll probably start buying older cars rather than newer ones.

The new car will have better tech, more luxury, be faster, etc. - objectively it'll be a better car. But the F82 M4 is already fast enough, especially with the aftermarket support.

[MMMCOOKIES55]

Too early to tell. We have no information regarding the G80 yet. Once i see some real pictures and data about it ill make a decision. If it goes auto and awd only, ill keep my F80 for the long haul.

[MicaCeli]

Originally Posted by cotmfk

A few reasons I probably will at least skip a generation:

1) Cars keep getting bigger. The current M4 is as big as I want to go. The F80 is basically the same size as the old school E39 M5. I'm not looking to drive a Cadillac here.

2) Manual - no manual, no care.

3) I'm still having fun with the current car.

4) I don't want AWD.

5) I opted for no driver assistance package. This may not be an option in the future and may be mandatory. I hate those systems on my own, personal car. Such a waste of money, extra weight, etc.

6) As newer cars get "better" they also seem to be losing "soul." In all likelihood, I'll probably start buying older cars rather than newer ones.

The new car will have better tech, more luxury, be faster, etc. - objectively it'll be a better car. But the F82 M4 is already fast enough, especially with the aftermarket support.

All good points, and where we are at the moment also. This might be one of the last manual sports sedan for a while, if I wanted an auto there are a TON of choices. I did the driver assist package because its sometimes nice to have AND you can turn all of it off if you dont want it.

[nicknaz]

Originally Posted by cotmfk

A few reasons I probably will at least skip a generation:

1) Cars keep getting bigger. The current M4 is as big as I want to go.

6) As newer cars get "better" they also seem to be losing "soul." In all likelihood, I'll probably start buying older cars rather than newer ones.

The new car will have better tech, more luxury, be faster, etc. - objectively it'll be a better car. But the F82 M4 is already fast enough, especially with the aftermarket support.

I agree on #1 for sure. If there was a Supra with s55 and great aero and no holds barred suspension tuning I would take that over an m3 type sedan.

Regarding 6, I wonder if the limits of the cars are so high it feels boring if driver is below them

[HPIA4v2]

Some may not like it, IMHO G80 will be bigger than current F80 mainly to fit right below F90 M5 in size and price. Too much of a gap between these two M cars lately.

[cotmfk]

Originally Posted by nicknaz

I agree on #1 for sure. If there was a Supra with s55 and great aero and no holds barred suspension tuning I would take that over an m3 type sedan.

Regarding 6, I wonder if the limits of the cars are so high it feels boring if driver is below them

I think you're on to something regarding #6. At the very least, on the street I agree with this statement. You can't go around flooring an M4, even stock, for much time without being at super-legal speeds in a straight line, and the car is so capable that in turns you are also going super-legal speeds very easily.

[Ibiza]

Originally Posted by GrussGott

If interest rates keep rising, it'll be interesting to see how that affects buyer choices / needs.

There's a lot of people in a lot more car right now that may be the case if rates rise ... I could see a lot of Gs on discount.

All the 'posters ordering strippers (AW/6MT/cloth) are at risk, as it will be a different economic environment when the G8x is released. Sticker shock?

Don't see discounting until the initial 1st on the block/order list wave passes.

[Alpine300zhp]

Originally Posted by RickFLM4

I haven't even figured out what I will do in 4 months when the lease ends on the car I have now. I'm all over the place. I have no idea what I will do in 3 years...

Interesting. I would have pegged you to reup for another F82. My m4 goes back in three months and I have already picked up its replacement...the F80 m3. In three years, I expect to go right into the G80 M3 or possibly the F90 M5. Another possibility is a Range Rover Supercharged or another x5M.

[Alpine300zhp]

Originally Posted by ///M4ster Yoda

Well my lease is up on my 16' civic M4 in 2019 so it's gonna be one more ED on an F82 before the next model comes out.

It's a long way off for the next model and it's tough to say what BMW will do. It kinda looks like ///M wants to be Audi (AWD and Auto transmissions) which is a shame IMO.

I'm not sure where to go if I left BMW. Merc and Porsche are for old dudes and Audi bores me. I just might whip out the gold chains, grow a mullet and go American muscle

I have been bouncing around the idea of going American if I opt for an SUV. If I get a car, without a doubt, it will be a G80 or F90. Due to possible frequent long-distance travel by car, I might go SUV again when the F80 comes off lease. The SUV choices are so vast that I have a hard time narrowing that field down except to what I have experienced in the past....Range Rover Supercharged and x5M. I have time, still have 32 months left on the F80.

[Alpine300zhp]

Originally Posted by LukeM15

This will be my ordeal my lease is up Jan 2020 but even if I was to get the G80 I wouldn’t want the first year model.

Meh, I took a first year F82 like many on this forum and it is a very solid car. I would not hesitate to pick up a first year M in the future.

[Alpine300zhp]

Originally Posted by GrussGott

If interest rates keep rising, it'll be interesting to see how that affects buyer choices / needs.

There's a lot of people in a lot more car right now that may be the case if rates rise ... I could see a lot of Gs on discount.

Hmm...maybe. I think your sentiment is more true with the run of the mill BMW's like the 330, 530, x1, x3 and x5. I think the M buyers are used to paying a premium and the question will not be "Can I afford it?" but "Is it worth that much more money?"

[adc]

Placed an order for an F80 Individual this summer. If offered, I might switch to the M2 Competition instead (low chance).

Next after that, the next-gen M2, M3 or go to Porsche (depending on finances).

[trey100]

Originally Posted by mkoesel

I believe most will keep their F8x for three years from the date of purchase since most people lease, and most of those people furthermore do not buy the car out at the end of the lease.

The G8x M3/M4 will be here tentatively early 2021, with the optimistic possibility that the G80 comes first in 2020. A non-trivial number of people who have a 2016 or 2017 F80 now will turn it and move into something else before the G80 is available. Now it is possible that some of those folks get a 2019 or 2020 M4, but many sedan buyers need those four doors.

I'm one of those. I thought about buying it out and selling when the next gen comes out but i put a lot of miles on and not sure a 5 year old 80k+ mile M3 will do on the market. Im thinking as a compromise to look for a lease trade into a 2018 M3 to get me to 2021.

[duky]

Plan to keep the F80 for as long as I can and add an X3M as a family car ~2020. If things go well I'd hope to be able to have a 3rd "fun" car in 2023 which could be G82/3 if it's offered with a manual and compelling enough otherwise I would look in the direction of the 992 911 or AMG GT successor if affordable. But as we know, plans can and often do change......

[RickFLM4]

Originally Posted by Alpine300zhp

Interesting. I would have pegged you to reup for another F82. My m4 goes back in three months and I have already picked up its replacement...the F80 m3. In three years, I expect to go right into the G80 M3 or possibly the F90 M5. Another possibility is a Range Rover Supercharged or another x5M.

Interestingly, among all the options I have rattling around in my head, a new F82 or F80 are not among them. My car is pristine so if I wanted to stay with F82 I'd probably buy mine out even if it probably makes more sense to return it. Cheaper than new and a known commodity.

I have thought about an F83, as well as (in no particular order) M550i, X3 M40i, Macan GTS, Audi S6/S7 (If I can pick up cheap as they are about to switch over generations), Audi RS5, Audi S4 or S5 Sportback, Giulia QV, C63S sedan / convertible (don't like coupe), Audi SQ5 and some others. F-Type and Cayman too small. Everything from same class as F82 to larger / highway cruiser and SUVs.

[nicknaz]

Originally Posted by cotmfk

I think you're on to something regarding #6. At the very least, on the street I agree with this statement. You can't go around flooring an M4, even stock, for much time without being at super-legal speeds in a straight line, and the car is so capable that in turns you are also going super-legal speeds very easily.

DSC OFF at the track, F80 was so fun for me I can't agree it being "soulless".

On the streets commuting, it was like an F30 335 and I could see folks not liking that and calling it "soulless" if they want an "always on" car

That's just the reality of a 'dual purpose car'...

[nathanm4]

Yes. G80 M3.

[Alpine300zhp]

Originally Posted by RickFLM4

Interestingly, among all the options I have rattling around in my head, a new F82 or F80 are not among them. My car is pristine so if I wanted to stay with F82 I'd probably buy mine out even if it probably makes more sense to return it. Cheaper than new and a known commodity.

I have thought about an F83, as well as (in no particular order) M550i, X3 M40i, Macan GTS, Audi S6/S7 (If I can pick up cheap as they are about to switch over generations), Audi RS5, Audi S4 or S5 Sportback, Giulia QV, C63S sedan / convertible (don't like coupe), Audi SQ5 and some others. F-Type and Cayman too small. Everything from same class as F82 to larger / highway cruiser and SUVs.

Well, you are all over the map. I am curious to see what you end up getting. Keep me posted.

[jmg]

Waiting to see. If the car gets any bigger, I'm out. Maybe an M2? Maybe it's time to move to Porsche? Hopefully they get that old feeling back in the M cars that everyone complains is lost in the F80.