I don't miss it

[mrduder]

Originally Posted by 335iRlz

can only do so many of the same 160 limiter pulls before it yawns.. It does everything well nothing exceptional but thats how I define my experience with the entire generation I've owned.

Doing pulls in a straight line is whatever. Any car can do that. This car shines on a track.

[WarrENDeatH]

My Dad always told me the two certainty's in growing up apart of our family. Taxes and car payments. We always loved driving brand new cars. Just come from a big car family. I don't have an issue 'working' for my car. It doesn't bug me.

[M5Rlz]

Originally Posted by Gibson6594

That's true, but I view it instead as doing everything exceptionally. Cars that outperform the M likely can't haul 2 kids and groceries.

Backseat is big that was a real plus having four adults in it often. Brembos were as awesome as they were on the F10

I went from that to a GTR (actually had both for a long time and daily drove the M4, it felt like a s600 when I was in the GTR often) which does two things exceptional, reliability and power. Now a V10 R8 a whole other level of special (as it should be for the cost)...

My E60 M5 as big of a junk as the SMG transmission was, and the E92 M3 were special they are forever burned into my mind, My F10 M5 as amazing as I think the S63tu is and even the amount of abuse my M4 took alpha testing one of the first JB4s out, they are largely forgettable, when put up against generation defining cars.

I'm sure not many people have that depth of driving time with each car to compare, but for me it just did everything well, and nothing I say "MAN I will miss that".

Just waiting for BMW to do something AMAZING again so I can buy more than just a daily 2017 x3

[AhsanU]

I miss my E46 M3 all the time, and the F80 M3 will never fill that void.

I need a 4 door car to haul family and employees around, so I don't regret buying the F80, but I'm currently contemplating on obtaining a car to fill the void that the E46 has left. I'm looking at the Shelby GT350, importing an R33 GTR in a year, another E46 M3 maybe, etc. Cone to think of it.. I could've bought an E46 M3 with the amount I've spent on mods alone for the F80. Damn.

Either way OP, you aren't alone in your feelings. Do what makes you happy!

[chmura]

It's sounds like an M2 would be a perfect car for you. Same size as e46 and still very quick.

[shockin330i]

Originally Posted by danniexi

no one cares. post on e46fanatics.

uuufffff

[Xtabi]

Originally Posted by Gibson6594

That's true, but I view it instead as doing everything exceptionally. Cars that outperform the M likely can't haul 2 kids and groceries.

Mine hauls my wife, 2, 6, and 8 year old. Such an awesome car!

[nicknaz]

Originally Posted by a1gio2

I can add that I didn't track my car, so I certainly missed out on that experience. I would imagine in that capacity the car would have been a blast. I couldn't justify tracking it for the expense of tires and beating on a brand new car. Maybe new tires after a track event should be expected; I got 17k miles out of mine. I certainly had my fun and know very well what the car is capable of, but realistically, its too much for regular road duty. Then comes the 340I debate, but I honestly don't like it. It does not feel special AT ALL...I would much prefer the feel of my 07 335i. I believe the F80 was/is as good as it gets for a new car, but I guess I'm now living in the past, preferring the "feel" and value proposition of older vehicles.

Congrats on the need to you car. Used cars are a great way to go for value and there are a lot of ways for a car to be fun outside of outright speed.

I agree there is a lot to be said for the more raw feel of older cars.

[Egrunt]

I miss my 2005 ZHP coupe with the 6-speed. BMW bought it back as a branded vehicle due to the ignition coils failing. I believe I would still own the car today if BMW could have fixed the ignition coil problem. Not a power house but a pure pleasure to drive. OP enjoy the ZHP.

[a1gio2]

Originally Posted by chmura

It's sounds like an M2 would be a perfect car for you. Same size as e46 and still very quick.

Perfect in size, but not in price.

It costs the same to purchase an M2 as is does to lease a $75k~ M3 which is what I came out of.

If I were keeping the car for 10 years it would be worth it because of depreciation and I am afraid of what servicing one of these cars will be like out of warranty.

Techs now-a-days plug in computers that tell them to replace parts and that's the extent of the diagnosis. The days of problem shooting and understanding how/why things work are over.

[jmg]

Originally Posted by a1gio2

I got out of my lease last month and thought I was going to miss my car so much. It had gotten to the point where I couldn't enjoy my car because I didn't feel that there was much value. These cars are very expensive and maybe I'm getting older and wiser, but I hated the feeling of working for my car.

I bought myself an E46 ZHP and figured I'd be bored and it would feel archaic but in all honesty, I love it. Its not fast. In fact, it's slow in comparison to my F80, but it has the charm that the new cars lack. It feels like a tank, it handles incredibly well, its not as harsh to live with as a daily driver, and most of all feels alive and not like a computer. I was never wowed like I thought I would be with the F80... I wanted one forever, I guess I could now say I had one.

Let the bashing begin - the "who cares" and "why don't you post in the E46 forum?"

I don't think speed and power are the only or even most important factors in having a fun car to drive. I'm glad you were able to find yet another great car to own. I'm sure when my lease is close to being up I'll be ready to move on and experience something new!

[Obioban]

Originally Posted by chmura

It's sounds like an M2 would be a perfect car for you. Same size as e46 and still very quick.

M2 is still turbo and EPS.

[Sassicaia]

Originally Posted by a1gio2

I got out of my lease last month and thought I was going to miss my car so much. It had gotten to the point where I couldn't enjoy my car because I didn't feel that there was much value. These cars are very expensive and maybe I'm getting older and wiser, but I hated the feeling of working for my car.

I bought myself an E46 ZHP and figured I'd be bored and it would feel archaic but in all honesty, I love it. Its not fast. In fact, it's slow in comparison to my F80, but it has the charm that the new cars lack. It feels like a tank, it handles incredibly well, its not as harsh to live with as a daily driver, and most of all feels alive and not like a computer. I was never wowed like I thought I would be with the F80... I wanted one forever, I guess I could now say I had one.

Let the bashing begin - the "who cares" and "why don't you post in the E46 forum?"

Can I take a wild guess that your F80 was a DCT?

[Xerxes480]

No bashing here. Life is too short to not drive a car that really does it for you. Enjoy!

-X-

[FC]

Originally Posted by Egrunt

I miss my 2005 ZHP coupe with the 6-speed. BMW bought it back as a branded vehicle due to the ignition coils failing. I believe I would still own the car today if BMW could have fixed the ignition coil problem. Not a power house but a pure pleasure to drive. OP enjoy the ZHP.

I'm going to post here my response elsewhere re: the ZHP:

http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...5&postcount=16

I'll add that my E91 M-sport was very close to the ZHP and had similar shortcomings.

[a1gio2]

Originally Posted by Sassicaia

Can I take a wild guess that your F80 was a DCT?

Nope, 6Spd

[Egrunt]

Originally Posted by Xerxes480

No bashing here. Life is too short to not drive a car that really does it for you. Enjoy!

-X-

If I had my way I would have never sold my 1971 Cuda 440, 6-pack back in 1984 and I would drive it today. Now trying to find a small black V-8 (318) with a 2 barrel carb is bringing strong money. Two years ago I came real close to buying a 70 Cuda with a 340 V-8 for 40k (numbers matching), missed this deal by 10 minutes (sold to caller who called in front of me).

[GrussGott]

this is about enjoying cars, drive what you like and stick around and tell us about it.

Hell, they still let minn19 hang around, and that dude's completely fucked in the head

[HuskyBMW]

I'm not sure I would own this car if I wasn't tracking it regularly. It is way too much car for just daily driving. I had a mildly modified 2008 335xi that I had the opportunity to track one day and got the bug. In fact, that one track day is the whole reason I bought the M3. If I hadn't tracked the 335 I would probably still have it. I'm a firm believer in being happy and if you aren't happy with this expensive of a car then you definitely made the right decision.

[M5Rlz]

Originally Posted by HuskyBMW

I'm not sure I would own this car if I wasn't tracking it regularly. It is way too much car for just daily driving. I had a mildly modified 2008 335xi that I had the opportunity to track one day and got the bug. In fact, that one track day is the whole reason I bought the M3. If I hadn't tracked the 335 I would probably still have it. I'm a firm believer in being happy and if you aren't happy with this expensive of a car then you definitely made the right decision.

Eh its a MUCH better car than a 335i assuming cost is no object.

I had dinan stage 3 suspension, Cobb, a host of other parts for stage 2 aggressive on my 335i, and that was not nearly the car the M4 is. Now assuming cost of a daily driver is a factor the 335i was great, and it for me was my first step into modding and I loved the car, and actually had great reliability over 56k miles before I was hit by a chick running a red light.


Breaking, driver assistance features, power in and out of traffic with the DCT/ twins it is an exceptional daily and I used it to contrast the GTR for quite awhile until I sold it.