Help me choose - keep my M6 convertible or buy a used M4 convertible?

[mjposner]

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I drive an M6 Convertible afte 4 years with an E93 M3. Looking at two
M4 convertibles:

2015 Black/Sakhir Orange, cpo warranty until 2019, 57k

or

2018 (two week old return??) Azurite over extended Silverstone, comp package, 93k list price, 81K

or

keep M6 for a year or two

[Munichm3]

I would either go with the first option, assuming you want that color combination, or ride your car for another year or two and wait for the prices to drop a bit more.

[Super Spartan]

Originally Posted by mjposner

I drive an M6 Convertible afte 4 years with an E93 M3. Looking at two
M4 convertibles:

2015 Black/Sakhir Orange, cpo warranty until 2019, 57k

or

2018 (two week old return??) Azurite over extended Silverstone, comp package, 93k list price, 81K

or

keep M6 for a year or two

go with the 2018 Competition

[frankiebones]

i would not recommend you go with any car unless it has the competition package.

also, comparing a new 2018 competition package versus a 2015 (first year) m4 is almost like comparing different cars. the 2018 version has many unpublished updates AND the competition package.

[mjposner]

The key question is thew 2018 worth 23k more. Longer warranty, 3 years free maintenance, iDrive 6 versus iDrive 5, comp package, extended leather, car play. Plus 1st year depreciation already taken

[Super Spartan]

Originally Posted by mjposner

The key question is thew 2018 worth 23k more. Longer warranty, 3 years free maintenance, iDrive 6 versus iDrive 5, comp package, extended leather, car play. Plus 1st year depreciation already taken

I've had both, the 2017 non competition pack M4 and now the 2018 M4 Competition. The difference is night and day. I feel like it's a different car, more power, better looks, better exhaust......

BMW M4 Competition Package upgrades list:

- Power output: 444 HP (output increase of +19 HP)
0-60 DCT: 3.8 seconds (sedan/coupe), 4.1 seconds (convertible)
- M Sports exhaust system with black chrome exhaust tailpipes
- Tuned Adaptive M Suspension (SA 2VF) with new settings
- New Springs
- New Dampers
- New Anti-Roll Bars
- Reconfigured driving modes (Comfort, Sport and Sport+)
- New Settings for DSC / Active M Differential
- Exclusive 20" M light allow wheels Star-spoke style 666M Forged, machine-polished, weight-and rigidity-optimized, multi-spoke wheels (front 9J ×20; rear10 J ×20) Mixed tires sizes (front: 265/30 R20, rear: 285/30 R20)
- M Seats with break-through elements in seat back (Coupe/Sedan only); deletion of lumbar support
- Seatbelts with woven-in BMW M stripes (Coupe/Sedan only)
- BMW Individual high-gloss Shadow Line with extended content: kidney frame, grill, rear model designation in Black high-gloss, including regular SA760 content

$5500 for sedan/coupe, $5000 for convertible


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Eibach measured the spring rates, the CP springs do have higher rates than the standard ones. They also increased the rear-to-front axle rate ratio with the CP springs.

Also see this:

[AJM1125]

I'd keep your M6.. Honestly wait it out, and see whats out there in another year or two. Going from a V8 TT to the M4's Inline 6 TT will be a tough pill to swallow. The M6 has already taken the strongest of its depreciation hit and its still a great car to look at. Maybe add downpipes and tune if you want to freshen things up. Just my 2 cents

[cobbyy]

I would keep M6 for now.

[Mthrice]

Azurite over Silverstone sounds beautiful, like to see a photo

[mjposner]

All good points. I know comp package is worth it, but if you threw 5k at the 2015 (exhaust, coilovers, tune) would you not approximate the result?

Keeping M6 is a good option, would be the adult thing to do (but who wants to be an adult).

Here is the 2018 showing interior and a picture of my car.\

[Jojipoji]

Keep the m6 and wait until the new m5/m6 comes out. I'm sure it'll be a beat.

[mjposner]

The new M6 will costs $130k plus which is far more than I am willing to spend. 90k is my max, so saving 14k on the 2018 seems appealing. Just not sure its worth the 23k premium over the 2015.

[mjposner]

I drove an M4 coupe 2015 today (neighbor's car).

Sounded louder than the M6
Lots of low speed torque
Stiffer
Felt smaller and more nimble
brakes were grabby (carbon ceramic)
seat was harder and too small, plus no thigh support (I think convertible uses a diferent seat)
Screen was sharper but smaller

[M6-Coupe]

Originally Posted by mjposner

I drive an M6 Convertible afte 4 years with an E93 M3. Looking at two
M4 convertibles:

2015 Black/Sakhir Orange, cpo warranty until 2019, 57k

or

2018 (two week old return??) Azurite over extended Silverstone, comp package, 93k list price, 81K

or

keep M6 for a year or two

Keep your M6.... You are gonna miss her if you leave her for M4 unless you want to go to racetrack

[mjposner]

Looked at the 2018 M4 today. Compared price only to the 2015 M4, this is what I came up with:

Individual Paint 1,950
Full Leather 2,550
Comp Package 4,250
Active Blind 500
Active Drive Asst 500
Wireless Charging 500
Apple CarPlay 300
Three Years Maintenance 2,995
Longer Warranty 4,766
New car smell priceless

Total $18,311

2018 cost $24k more (57k versus 81k).

Still not sure what I will do.

[Ian1973]

First I'd get the dog out of the M6 , second I would keep the M6, tune it or something. That is so much more rare than the M4. That means something to me.

Tuned the M6 has got to be faster also. More portly yes, but doesn't appear you are a avid track guy so who cares just for the street?

[mjposner]

Ian1973...If I keep I will consider adding downpipes, tune and exhaust from Active Autowerke, they are down here in South Florida.

Dog is my Co-Pilot.

[mjposner]

Looked at the 2018 M4 today. Compared price only to the 2015 M4, this is what I came up with:

Individual Paint 1,950
Full Leather 2,550
Comp Package 4,250
Active Blind 500
Active Drive Asst 500
Wireless Charging 500
Apple CarPlay 300
Three Years Maintenance 2,995
Longer Warranty 4,766 (10/21 versus 12/19)
New car smell priceless

Total $18,311

2018 cost $24k more (57k versus 81k).

Sales tax is another $1500

[smithf80]

Is there a question? What are options on the other car?

Also, your website needs a redesign.

[JoeFromPA]

Originally Posted by mjposner

Looked at the 2018 M4 today. Compared price only to the 2015 M4, this is what I came up with:

Individual Paint 1,950
Full Leather 2,550
Comp Package 4,250
Active Blind 500
Active Drive Asst 500
Wireless Charging 500
Apple CarPlay 300
Three Years Maintenance 2,995
Longer Warranty 4,766 (10/21 versus 12/19)
New car smell priceless

Total $18,311

2018 cost $24k more (57k versus 81k).

Sales tax is another $1500

For what it's worth, I just finished 3 years of maintenance on my 2015 m3. During that time, I drove 35,000 miles.

I received ~4 oil changes, one brake fluid change, 2 new sets of wipers, one new cabin air filter, one new set of spark plugs, and I believe a new engine air filter.

Oil changes on these cars are worth, at the very most, $150 - it's 7 quarts of $6/quart oil, a $10 filter, and labor. Wipers are cheap. Air filters are cheap. Spark plugs - let's give them the benefit of the doubt at $500 for plugs + labor. Brake fluid flush is worth $200 max.

3 years of maintenance is worth, maybe, $1200-1500 during the first 3 years of the car. At the most and assuming BMW rates. If you DIY at all, it is worth alot less than that.

Price accordingly.

[amrh]

While I am a member of few words... it seems you've already made up your mind to get an M4. Reality is, if you decide to keep your M6 (tune or not tune), within a few months you'll be back at looking for a replacement. Once the bug hits, you have to move forward!

Between the two listed, go for the 2018. It's the one that you'll have less regrets about. If you get a 2015, you'll always be thinking about the 2018 with competition package that got away. The money factor dissipates after a little while, and you're left with the car at hand.

[mjposner]

I think I will wait at least until next summer. M6 is paid for and under warranty until 10/18 so the grown-up in me says be patient. That said, may do a jb4 tune, intake and sport exhaust for fun while I wait.