F80 M3 / F82 M4 first (1200 miles) service guide - what's required...

[LwaLt]

Good point! Yes, I've notified him and he seemed a bit clueless about it. I kept mentioning the replacement of the plugs/screws, he tried reassuring me along these lines, "ok no problem, as long as it's listed with the 1st service instructions, we will throw them in".

I feel like I'm in wavering hands...

[///M Dream]

While i had my service done at 1200 miles on my ED the dealer in Vienna used 0w-30. That is what it states in the manual as well. Should i be worried or change it to 0w-40?

[Np2014]

How much roughly are people paying out of pocket for getting the Dct transmission fluid changed for their first service appointment at 1200 miles?

[Stevens21234]

so this sucks. Sounds like most dealers do not know how to do the 1200 mile service correctly and comprehensively. terrible

[erio]

They forgot the diff screws even though I sent them a reminder well in advance. Can someone confirm that the engine and diff oil are correct? See the pic below. I can't find that engine oil listed in the part numbers provided. Thanks.

[Dackelone]

Originally Posted by erio

They forgot the diff screws even though I sent them a reminder well in advance. Can someone confirm that the engine and diff oil are correct? See the pic below. I can't find that engine oil listed in the part numbers provided. Thanks.


Attachment 1097759

@erio the diff/gear oil looks correct. Because it says "XJ" which I assume to mean Castrol SAF-XJ

I ran both part numbers for gear and engine oil on RealOEM.com nadda. But that's not surprising bc most dealers make up their "own" part number for oils.

5w30 engine oil is one of the oils approved for the new F8x. So other than the screws being forgotten, looks like your good.


Dackel

[erio]

Originally Posted by Dackelone

@erio the diff/gear oil looks correct. Because it says "XJ" which I assume to mean Castrol SAF-XJ

I ran both part numbers for gear and engine oil on RealOEM.com nadda. But that's not surprising bc most dealers make up their "own" part number for oils.

5w30 engine oil is one of the oils approved for the new F8x. So other than the screws being forgotten, looks like your good.


Dackel

Thanks Dackel. They said they can't find any official document from BMW showing that the diff screws need to be replaced, but would do some research. Do you happen to know if job #1 in the attachment above that mentions the "complete standard scope" does the necessary reset needed for launch control? I may need to ask them about that as well. If I remember correctly, with the e90 M, if the did the 1200 mile service was performed a little early, it still didn't activate until the car actually hit 1200 miles. It doesn't sound like thats the case anymore.

[Dackelone]

Originally Posted by erio

Thanks Dackell. They said they can't find any official document from BMW showing that the diff screws need to be replaced, but would do some research. Do you happen to know if job #1 in the attachment above that mentions the "complete standard scope" does the necessary reset needed for launch control. I may need to ask them about that as well.

Have them LOOK in the parts computer - when looking up the oil pan(and diff plugs)... it says right in the parts data(ETK) that the plugs/screws are 1x(one time!) use.

ETK = electronic teile katalog (electronic parts catalog)

Achtung: aluminum schrauben sind nur 1x zu verwenden
Caution: aluminum screw should be used only 1x

In fact ALL aluminum bolts/screws are ONE TIME use! When in doubt a tech should use a simple magnet to determine whether the screw is alu or steel. Most of the bolts BMW use nowadays is alu.

[erio]

Originally Posted by Dackelone

Have them LOOK in the parts computer - when looking up the oil pan(and diff plugs)... it says right in the parts data that the plugs/screws are 1x(one time!) use.

In fact ALL aluminum bolts/screws are ONE TIME use! When in doubt a tech should use a simple magnet to determine whether the screw is alu or steel. Most of the bolts BMW use nowadays is alu.

Will do. What about the standard scope I mentioned....do you know if that includes the necessary reset for launch control activation?

[Dackelone]

Originally Posted by erio

Will do. What about the standard scope I mentioned....do you know if that includes the necessary reset for launch control activation?

Only one way to find out!


I would try to activate it... but not use it until you put some more miles on your car.

[erio]

Originally Posted by Dackelone

Only one way to find out!


I would try to activate it... but not use it until you put some more miles on your car.

Thanks again. Yes I just want to make sure it was done correctly and activated for when I want to try it out.

Looks like they only used 1L (2 bottles) for the diff fluid and it's supposed to take 1.3L. Do you think that's an issue? I assume it isn't.

[Dackelone]

Originally Posted by erio

Thanks again. Yes I just want to make sure it was done correctly and activated for when I want to try it out.

Looks like they only used 1L (2 bottles) for the diff fluid and it's supposed to take 1.3L. Do you think that's an issue?

?

1L + 1L = 2Liters in my math class!

or did you mean 1/2 liter bottles? (500ml) ???

[erio]

Originally Posted by Dackelone

?

1L + 1L = 2Liters in my math class!

or did you mean 1/2 liter bottles? (500ml) ???

I thought they were 0.5 L bottles. I believe this was mentioned in one of your other posts.

[Dackelone]

Originally Posted by erio

I thought they were 0.5 L bottles. I believe this was mentioned in one of your other posts.

Every dealer bills out the oil differently. Some buy in bulk, some buy in bottles, some buy a whole tanker truck load(6,000 liters!).

Yes, the Castrol SAF-XJ oil comes in 500ml (1/2 liter) bottles. But you wrote that your dealer used two, 1l bottles on the invoice. So that would be enough to replace the old diff oil.

You should ask your dealer about it. Along with the alu bolts.

[erio]

Originally Posted by Dackelone

Every dealer bills out the oil differently. Some buy in bulk, some buy in bottles, some buy a whole tanker truck load(6,000 liters!).

Yes, the Castrol SAF-XJ oil comes in 500ml (1/2 liter) bottles. But you wrote that your dealer used two, 1l bottles on the invoice. So that would be enough to replace the old diff oil.

You should ask your dealer about it. Along with the alu bolts.

Thanks. I meant 2 bottles that make up one liter total. I assume they were 1/2 liter bottles. Sorry about the confusion. I appreciate your help. I'll ask.

[TheRealOrosie]

My dealer doesn't have a replacement oil plug, so my car is sitting on the rack with no engine oil, waiting for new plug from a different dealership....lol. So much for the dealer being prepared for F8x 1200 mile services.

[Stevens21234]

For those worried about getting the screws, why not order it in advance from the dealer parts department online? It's about $12 and provides peace of mind and saves one from multiple trips to the dealer potentially.

[Mikster]

Well, I had my 2000km service done last week.

Thanks to the info on this forum, I was able to go in and make sure they did what was required. It seems that many dealerships are not 100% up to speed on what is required, as I will elaborate below.

I told the SA to make sure they change the oil pan and diff bolts. And they did, using the proper part numbers 33-11-7-525-064 (diff bolt) and 11-11-7-849-396 (oil bolt).
The oil, though, I have different part numbers.

83-21-2-296-489 BMW MOTOR OIL SAE 5
83-22-9-415-961 FINAL DRIVE GEAR OI

The BMW motor oil, when I check online, comes up on bimmerpost as an M5 oil.
The SA told me it was 5W30 full synthetic BMW oil.

The Differential fluid pops up online as for previous generation of M3 cars.
And the oil filter 11-42-7-854-445 pops up online as a "BMW OEM filter element". They told me they had no stock of that part, and they had to get it from another dealer across town that turned my 2-hour Break In Check into a 5 hour affair. Once they got the filter, apparently it simply had the BMW "M" logo on it, but looked the same as other BMW filters.

It doesn't seem like the parts computer systems in Canada have been updated to reflect parts for 2015 M3/M4. At least that's my impression.

They also did a full system "SCOPE PER CBS VALUES", whatever that is. Explained to me as just a systems' check. And finally, they Deleted the "Transport" mode. I guess that is a setting that limits the engine during transport and deliver/prep.

Any thoughts? I was worried that they didn't put the right oil in...but everything is running fine.


M

[Vigilant]

Originally Posted by Mikster

Well, I had my 2000km service done last week.

Thanks to the info on this forum, I was able to go in and make sure they did what was required. It seems that many dealerships are not 100% up to speed on what is required, as I will elaborate below.

I told the SA to make sure they change the oil pan and diff bolts. And they did, using the proper part numbers 33-11-7-525-064 (diff bolt) and 11-11-7-849-396 (oil bolt).
The oil, though, I have different part numbers.

83-21-2-296-489 BMW MOTOR OIL SAE 5
83-22-9-415-961 FINAL DRIVE GEAR OI

The BMW motor oil, when I check online, comes up on bimmerpost as an M5 oil.
The SA told me it was 5W30 full synthetic BMW oil.

The Differential fluid pops up online as for previous generation of M3 cars.
And the oil filter 11-42-7-854-445 pops up online as a "BMW OEM filter element". They told me they had no stock of that part, and they had to get it from another dealer across town that turned my 2-hour Break In Check into a 5 hour affair. Once they got the filter, apparently it simply had the BMW "M" logo on it, but looked the same as other BMW filters.

It doesn't seem like the parts computer systems in Canada have been updated to reflect parts for 2015 M3/M4. At least that's my impression.

They also did a full system "SCOPE PER CBS VALUES", whatever that is. Explained to me as just a systems' check. And finally, they Deleted the "Transport" mode. I guess that is a setting that limits the engine during transport and deliver/prep.

Any thoughts? I was worried that they didn't put the right oil in...but everything is running fine.


M

Mikster...your oil filter is correct. I just underwent the 1200 mile service on my 2015 M3. I have attached the work order for you to compare. My car does seem to be running "better" as far as acceleration or maybe it is a placebo effect. Be mindful that the ECU will log all launch control attempts and taxes the transmission. Enjoy your M3.

[Bubbles]

Originally Posted by Vigilant

Mikster...your oil filter is correct. I just underwent the 1200 mile service on my 2015 M3. I have attached the work order for you to compare. My car does seem to be running "better" as far as acceleration or maybe it is a placebo effect. Be mindful that the ECU will log all launch control attempts and taxes the transmission. Enjoy your M3.

[Vigilant]

Originally Posted by Bubbles

Stop hitting me...

[ScoopsLR]

Originally Posted by neo871

This is not fair. I always believed, that due to BMW-Castrol partnership, the BMW LL oil used should be the same quality as the original Castrol Egde.
I'm really disappointed to see the BMW oil burns a lot more.
On the other had, BMW Service would never allow you to use another oil, even if it's Castrol, during warranty period. BS.

I was looking at this too. I would rather have them use Castrol than BMW LL. Has there been any update that their oil has got better ?