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      04-17-2014, 04:26 PM   #45
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Problem with boxters is that they have 10 hp less than caymans
And the problem with Caymans are they have a fixed roof.

That 10hp is good for a 0.00001s quicker 0-60.
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      04-17-2014, 04:45 PM   #46
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Verts are always more expensive, just BMW's way to make more $$$ by pitching the luxury of going topless ...
I've always been amazed at the pricing structure of coupes vs. convertibles. It's 8k more for a convertible than a carbon fiber fixed roof, although the retractable hard tops like this are surely more expensive to build than traditional soft tops like the 6 series.

One exception is the Porsche 981 Boxster/Cayman. On that car, the coupes are slightly more than the convertibles. Yet, on the hallowed 991 Carrera, the convertible is 11k more than the coupe. So, when I was making purchasing decisions, I would easily have chosen a 991S Coupe over a 981S Cayman, but there is no way I could have justified 40 to 50k more for a 991 base or S cabriolet over a Boxster S. The GTS version has a bit more power alright, but essentially just has a few of the options as standard and a different front end.

Ultimately for me it boiled down to a few factors.

1. I still don't care for the looks of the 4 series with the top up. I love everything else about the car (except the limited color options).
2. We have an F30 335i, my wife's daily driver, and I think I would tire of the cars more quickly if we had two so similar.
3. The dealers are not discounting, or worse, the M4 convertibles, and many already have a list, whereas I'm getting a significant discount on a personally spec'd 2015 Boxster S.

The really great thing is there are so many fantastic options coming down the pipe. The 2 series convertible, possibly even an M2 version, the new Mustang convertible, the C7 convertible (including for the first time ever a Z06 convertible) the new Audi TT (maybe), etc., just as examples. It's a great time to be a sports car fan!
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      04-18-2014, 11:06 AM   #47
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How much if tax is included? Cars are way cheaper in the North America.
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      04-19-2014, 05:04 AM   #48
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How much if tax is included? Cars are way cheaper in the North America.
Depends on the state in which you live. My state has a 3% sales tax rate on the net purchase price of a new car (price - trade value if applicable). Other states have different rates.
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Depends on the state in which you live. My state has a 3% sales tax rate on the net purchase price of a new car (price - trade value if applicable). Other states have different rates.
So that would be $73425 x 1.03 = $75628. In my country, that's enough for an M135i OR a 320i M Sport only.
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How much if tax is included? Cars are way cheaper in the North America.
Only in the US. In Canada, the M3 starts from $74k and the M4 starts from 75k. No prices yet for the convertible.
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€80,850 base price of the convertible in Luxembourg (15% VAT). But is comes pretty loaded with stuff that elsewhere seems to be optional.
€3,773 for DKG
€1,791 19"
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I would love to own a convertible, but I haven't been able to figure out how to haul my mountain bike around.


Available from BMW. Bolts right into the bumper. Even comes with lights.
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^^^

That requires a tow hitch which I don't believe you can mount to an M4 with stock exhaust. If you install aftermarket exhaust it might be possible, hard to say.
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^^^^^^^

On the 3 series (without M-Sport) it is a direct bolt on to the bumper through the fascia.
On my 335is, you need to install the secondary "bolt latch" under the rear bumper fascia,
Then it is a direct bolt on to the bumper. You can easily put it on/take it off via the tow holes.

The photo above is the new version for the 4 series. I imagine they will have the same for ///M4 cabrio.


http://www.bmw.com/com/en/newvehicle...r_carrier.html
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The photo above is the new version for the 4 series. I imagine they will have the same for ///M4 cabrio.
Like I say, not with the stock exhaust. To convince yourself, examine the M4 exhaust routing as compared to the 4 Series.

Same issue the E9x M3 had as compared to the E9x 3 Series.
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