bootmod3 for BMW F series Vehicles - General Discussion

[wicked1044]

What is the average price for a shop to remove the DME?

[proTUNING Freaks]

New update for those with a BM3 hardware agent box:

WIFI connectivity between the phone and BM3 device is great but wired is now supported as well!

Plug in a USB cable between the device and your phone and tether with a cable instead of Wifi. There's no longer a requirement to run WIFI for the hotspot or change the phone's name or hotspot password on your phone if you use a USB cable.

You'd enable USB tethering, plug the USB cable from the phone to the BM3 device and off you go.

Link to the latest firmware is up on the bootmod3 enthusiasts Facebook group

[HighlyMedicated]

Always updating, thank you sir for the constant support and quality product. People may think updates are because something was wrong or broken but so many ways to build software and ways to improve the efficiency to match it all together. Its like apple, new ios and all your apps need updates to catch up but nothing is wrong just an upgrade!


Do Work! Hustle Daily and eventually will get your deam Lady !!

[///MFlight81]

Originally Posted by proTUNING Freaks

New update for those with a BM3 hardware agent box:

WIFI connectivity between the phone and BM3 device is great but wired is now supported as well!

Plug in a USB cable between the device and your phone and tether with a cable instead of Wifi. There's no longer a requirement to run WIFI for the hotspot or change the phone's name or hotspot password on your phone if you use a USB cable.

You'd enable USB tethering, plug the USB cable from the phone to the BM3 device and off you go.

Link to the latest firmware is up on the bootmod3 enthusiasts Facebook group

PTF in orders to update the bootmod3 agent firmware you have to do it through the site on your computer right? Is there going to be an update for your phone also for this?

[Valid_F80]

Originally Posted by ///MFlight81

PTF in orders to update the bootmod3 agent firmware you have to do it through the site on your computer right? Is there going to be an update for your phone also for this?

Yes you need your computer, to Update the SD card.

[proTUNING Freaks]

Originally Posted by ///MFlight81

PTF in orders to update the bootmod3 agent firmware you have to do it through the site on your computer right? Is there going to be an update for your phone also for this?

Firmware updates are rare and those need the SD card out and its done with a computer. Otherwise all other updates can be done via the phone.

[AhsanU]

So does anyone have issues with the box that's used to flash with your phone? I'll connect to my car briefly, only to disconnect ever 30-40 seconds, the briefly recumbent.

I've rarely not had issues with staying connected to it. I'll try to initialise a flash, only to get an error before being able
to start it. My wireless hotspot is perfectly fine, and the cables are plugged in snug too. I think I'll replace the OBD2 cable first

[BuLoOoSki]

Originally Posted by AhsanU

So does anyone have issues with the box that's used to flash with your phone? I'll connect to my car briefly, only to disconnect ever 30-40 seconds, the briefly recumbent.

I've rarely not had issues with staying connected to it. I'll try to initialise a flash, only to get an error before being able
to start it. My wireless hotspot is perfectly fine, and the cables are plugged in snug too. I think I'll replace the OBD2 cable first

Nope. You running the latest firmware on your agent device (box)?

So you're saying if you are using the agent device you keep disconnecting, but if you connect via the laptop it's fine? Assuming you are using the same OBDII cable for both connections then I can't see how the cable could be problem. Just check you are using the the latest firmware and running the latest BM3 app version on your phone.

[Lojs]

Originally Posted by BuLoOoSki

Nope. You running the latest firmware on your agent device (box)?

So you're saying if you are using the agent device you keep disconnecting, but if you connect via the laptop it's fine? Assuming you are using the same OBDII cable for both connections then I can't see how the cable could be problem. Just check you are using the the latest firmware and running the latest BM3 app version on your phone.

Originally I also had wifi connectivity problems even updating firmware would not help. Turned out my SD card was corrupt.
I bought a new card, flashed newest agent firmware and it's working fine ever since.

[AhsanU]

Originally Posted by BuLoOoSki

Nope. You running the latest firmware on your agent device (box)?

So you're saying if you are using the agent device you keep disconnecting, but if you connect via the laptop it's fine? Assuming you are using the same OBDII cable for both connections then I can't see how the cable could be problem. Just check you are using the the latest firmware and running the latest BM3 app version on your phone.

I'm certain I'm not running the latest firmware, but then again - I've had this issue since day one. I'll update it tonight or tomorrow and see if that's the issue.

I've also never flashed with my laptop since I've always used the agent device. I'll also try this and see how it goes.

Originally Posted by Lojs

Originally I also had wifi connectivity problems even updating firmware would not help. Turned out my SD card was corrupt.
I bought a new card, flashed newest agent firmware and it's working fine ever since.

I'll have to look into this. I have plenty of SD cards laying around, maybe that's the issue.

Which one did you buy to replace the original one with?

[Andym3100k]

Originally Posted by whoop_ass

Dzenan is a legend for sure

was holiday yesterday and in Canada and the guy still manages to help out...

Believe or not he is like a superman 💪🏻

[proTUNING Freaks]

Originally Posted by Lojs

Originally I also had wifi connectivity problems even updating firmware would not help. Turned out my SD card was corrupt.
I bought a new card, flashed newest agent firmware and it's working fine ever since.

Its rare but it happens. Funny enough SD card in my Nikon DSLR also gave out the other day. They're cheap though as you only need an 8GB one but you can always go bigger.

Originally Posted by Andym3100k

Believe or not he is like a superman 💪🏻

[proTUNING Freaks]

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[BuLoOoSki]

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[SanchoDivine]

Is the base tune made for stock DPs or do I need to go catless to get BM3? I'm already without the secondary cats and it's loud enough. I'm mostly interested in the burbles but would also like to get some power benefit considering I'd essentially be giving up my engine warranty. Speaking of which, I'd want to be conservative to lower the risk of breaking anything. How much will HP and torque be increased?

[GlazierGlaze]

When are we gonna get this update? Can't wait.

I need to update to the most recent version you guys pushed to me last week.

[BuLoOoSki]

Originally Posted by SanchoDivine

Is the base tune made for stock DPs or do I need to go catless to get BM3? I'm already without the secondary cats and it's loud enough. I'm mostly interested in the burbles but would also like to get some power benefit considering I'd essentially be giving up my engine warranty. Speaking of which, I'd want to be conservative to lower the risk of breaking anything. How much will HP and torque be increased?

You don't need to go with catless DPs with the stage 1 map. For the stage 2 map it's also not required, but recommended.

You can go with the stage 1 map if you wanna be "conservative"

[chewbakam4]

Originally Posted by GlazierGlaze

When are we gonna get this update? Can't wait.

I need to update to the most recent version you guys pushed to me last week.

They changed things and made it easier. You can just request the map through the system now.

[Lojs]

Originally Posted by BuLoOoSki

You don't need to go with catless DPs with the stage 1 map. For the stage 2 map it's also not required, but recommended.

You can go with the stage 1 map if you wanna be "conservative"

Downpipes are as much recommended as any other bolt on. Is it nice to have? Yes, why not. Is it necessary to make gains? Absolutely not.
I have been running upgraded turbos with BM3 for almost a year now with STOCK CATS. I am making 600+ hp with absolutely zero issues. And I track my car.
This platform is over 3 years old and I have yet to see back to back (comparable) dynos of the same car with/without downpipes that conclusively prove significant gains. The OEM cats are not restrictive.

[BuLoOoSki]

Originally Posted by Lojs

Downpipes are as much recommended as any other bolt on. Is it nice to have? Yes, why not. Is it necessary to make gains? Absolutely not.
I have been running upgraded turbos with BM3 for almost a year now with STOCK CATS. I am making 600+ hp with absolutely zero issues. And I track my car.
This platform is over 3 years old and I have yet to see back to back (comparable) dynos of the same car with/without downpipes that conclusively prove significant gains. The OEM cats are not restrictive.

I don't want to go into a downpipe discussion, but I'm surprised to how strongly you are against downpipes but still have a $2500 intake on your car. Which is also a mod proven to provide no gains

Anyway, I don't really care what mods people get, its their money. I have downpipes for the sound and not for power. However, I'm definitely curious about your car being tacked with upgraded turbos. Do you run any upgraded cooling components like an upgraded heat exchanger or charge cooler or DCT cooler?

And do you run stock or an upgraded clutch?

[Lojs]

Originally Posted by BuLoOoSki

I don't want to go into a downpipe discussion, but I'm surprised to how strongly you are against downpipes but still have a $2500 intake on your car. Which is also a mod proven to provide no gains

Anyway, I don't really care what mods people get, its their money. I have downpipes for the sound and not for power. However, I'm definitely curious about your car being tacked with upgraded turbos. Do you run any upgraded cooling components like an upgraded heat exchanger or charge cooler or DCT cooler?

And do you run stock or an upgraded clutch?

I think you slightly misunderstood my point. You are mixing two issues here: (a) the necessity of downpipes for serious power gains with bm3 and (b) justification of money spent on downpipes.

(a) The first issue is the one I have been trying to stress. I would like to bust the myth that you can not go into the 500+whp territory unless you go catless. The problem with people hearing "dp highly recommended" from PTF or any other Subject Matter Expert results in the same effect as when people were switching their cell phones before aircraft takeoff for 20 years, sincerely believing the plane would crash otherwise (although I admit it was obligatory, not recommended). My point is: among people with somewhat limited technical background and experience if a reputable source repeats the same thing over and over they take it for granted, not even questioning the underlying reasons. There is probably a good number of people around here that are scared to go for stage 2 maps, just because they dont have downpipes.

(b) as for mods and money: I am not against downpipes. I never said they are a waste of money, I never even mentioned money. I just said they don't produce the marginal power gains people typically attribute to them. There are two reasons I did not get them: going catless in Germany does not only result in a ticket if you get caught, it voids your car registration and your insurance (yet there are still hardcore enthusiasts that run them around here). Before anyone suggests uninstalling the downpipes every two years for inspection, let me tell you how screwed up German police is: they will block a road and pull over every car that looks/sounds modded. They will then take a flashlight and inspect the whole car including underbody lying on the ground, measure ground clearance and wheel fender gaps. And if they find anything that is not stock and not specially permitted in your registration papers, you are in trouble.
The other reason is that MPE does notoriously not sound good with downpipes.
As for your point about eventuri intake: again, i never said if a mod does not add power (or power gain/price ratio is unattractive) nobody should buy it. There are many other reasons to get mods. As you pointed out, I absolutely love the sound of eventuri (looking back at it, a much cheaper aftermarket intake would have probably sounded as good, but then again I got a good deal and just loved the quality and looks of it).

Tracking: again there seems to be a myth that f8x is prone to overheating if modded... maybe in Texas summer weather, maybe with 700+whp, maybe in long endurance pro races... but in mild continental European weather I never had any limp modes or anything like that. Where I DO have heat issues though are the brakes, and I posted about this in the respective threads. This would be way off-topic here.

Stock clutch. No slippage yet. However I am still working with PTF on a custom tune to target top-end power and limit mid-range torque insanity.

sorry proTUNING Freaks

[BuLoOoSki]

Originally Posted by Lojs

I think you slightly misunderstood my point. You are mixing two issues here: (a) the necessity of downpipes for serious power gains with bm3 and (b) justification of money spent on downpipes.

(a) The first issue is the one I have been trying to stress. I would like to bust the myth that you can not go into the 500+whp territory unless you go catless. The problem with people hearing "dp highly recommended" from PTF or any other Subject Matter Expert results in the same effect as when people were switching their cell phones before aircraft takeoff for 20 years, sincerely believing the plane would crash otherwise (although I admit it was obligatory, not recommended). My point is: among people with somewhat limited technical background and experience if a reputable source repeats the same thing over and over they take it for granted, not even questioning the underlying reasons. There is probably a good number of people around here that are scared to go for stage 2 maps, just because they dont have downpipes.

(b) as for mods and money: I am not against downpipes. I never said they are a waste of money, I never even mentioned money. I just said they don't produce the marginal power gains people typically attribute to them. There are two reasons I did not get them: going catless in Germany does not only result in a ticket if you get caught, it voids your car registration and your insurance (yet there are still hardcore enthusiasts that run them around here). Before anyone suggests uninstalling the downpipes every two years for inspection, let me tell you how screwed up German police is: they will block a road and pull over every car that looks/sounds modded. They will then take a flashlight and inspect the whole car including underbody lying on the ground, measure ground clearance and wheel fender gaps. And if they find anything that is not stock and not specially permitted in your registration papers, you are in trouble.
The other reason is that MPE does notoriously not sound good with downpipes.
As for your point about eventuri intake: again, i never said if a mod does not add power (or power gain/price ratio is unattractive) nobody should buy it. There are many other reasons to get mods. As you pointed out, I absolutely love the sound of eventuri (looking back at it, a much cheaper aftermarket intake would have probably sounded as good, but then again I got a good deal and just loved the quality and looks of it).

Tracking: again there seems to be a myth that f8x is prone to overheating if modded... maybe in Texas summer weather, maybe with 700+whp, maybe in long endurance pro races... but in mild continental European weather I never had any limp modes or anything like that. Where I DO have heat issues though are the brakes, and I posted about this in the respective threads. This would be way off-topic here.

Stock clutch. No slippage yet. However I am still working with PTF on a custom tune to target top-end power and limit mid-range torque insanity.

sorry proTUNING Freaks

Relax Bro

Glad to hear that you are running fine with stock clutch. I really want to upgrade to PS2 turbos but dont want to go thorough the hassle of a clutch upgrade. What has your car been putting down?