BMW M3 and M4 Lease Rates (36 months)

[TrevorM3]

Originally Posted by firedown31

Sounds like typical Florida and typical Florida dealer. M5s should be selling for a much larger discount than $2500...

Also I would absolutely bet they are raising the MF above the buy rate.

lol.. he is not in fla actually (but i know exactly what you are talking about) i'd rather not say where he is from. but he is very nice dude.. that being said, i may have found a better deal.


msrp 102395
sale 94825
payment w 6% sales tax 1023.64
drive off (1st payment, 925 aquisition fee, 80 doc fee)
MF- 0.00135
Residual 61%

Euro Delivery
MSRP 102395
Sale 91475
payment w 6% 967.57
drive off 1st payment, 925 acquisition fee, 80 doc fee
mf- 0.00165
residual 61%

thoughts?

[cipri]

Originally Posted by TrevorM3

lol.. he is not in fla actually (but i know exactly what you are talking about) i'd rather not say where he is from. but he is very nice dude.. that being said, i may have found a better deal.


msrp 102395
sale 94825
payment w 6% sales tax 1023.64
drive off (1st payment, 925 aquisition fee, 80 doc fee)
MF- 0.00135
Residual 61%

Euro Delivery
MSRP 102395
Sale 91475
payment w 6% 967.57
drive off 1st payment, 925 acquisition fee, 80 doc fee
mf- 0.00165
residual 61%

thoughts?

great deal
I would be interested

[firedown31]

Originally Posted by TrevorM3

lol.. he is not in fla actually (but i know exactly what you are talking about) i'd rather not say where he is from. but he is very nice dude.. that being said, i may have found a better deal.


msrp 102395
sale 94825
payment w 6% sales tax 1023.64
drive off (1st payment, 925 aquisition fee, 80 doc fee)
MF- 0.00135
Residual 61%

Euro Delivery
MSRP 102395
Sale 91475
payment w 6% 967.57
drive off 1st payment, 925 acquisition fee, 80 doc fee
mf- 0.00165
residual 61%

thoughts?

As said above looks much better. I'm not too familiar with current M5 deals but that ED payment looks nice for a 100k+ car.

[richrich121]

Anyone know if the MF drops with MSD and if so what the MSD becomes for march? Also, with ED what can I anticipate to save vs buying it at the dealer?



Heres the deal I'm looking at, 16 M3 black sapphire/black leather, 6spd, 19 inch wheels for buying at the dealer.

MSRP $67,200.00
Negotiated Price $65,050.00
Lease Incentive $1,500.00
Sales Tax Rate 9.00% - CA San Francisco :-(
Money Factor 0.001350
Residual 61% @ 10k @ 36mo
MSD $0

Drive-off $1,445.84
Total Monthly Payment $836.84

[firedown31]

Originally Posted by richrich121

Anyone know if the MF drops with MSD and if so what the MSD becomes for march? Also, with ED what can I anticipate to save vs buying it at the dealer?



Heres the deal I'm looking at, 16 M3 black sapphire/black leather, 6spd, 19 inch wheels for buying at the dealer.

MSRP $67,200.00
Negotiated Price $65,050.00
Lease Incentive $1,500.00
Sales Tax Rate 9.00% - CA San Francisco :-(
Money Factor 0.001350
Residual 61% @ 10k @ 36mo
MSD $0

Drive-off $1,445.84
Total Monthly Payment $836.84

Each MSD drops the MF by .00007 up to a max of 7 for a total reduction of .00049. Going ED will increase the MF by .0003. How much ED will save you is entirely dependent on how much you spend getting to Germany and how much you spend over there. Do ED for the experience, not the savings.

[SsixHiMod]

Anyone used corporate/employer discounts on top of the negotiated price? Ours doesn't tell me what that discount is other than the dealer will determine what value that might be.

[firedown31]

Originally Posted by kazak102

Anyone used corporate/employer discounts on top of the negotiated price? Ours doesn't tell me what that discount is other than the dealer will determine what value that might be.

Fleet discount? It's $1500 for the M3/4. Make sure you work out your sale price first and THEN bring up the fleet discount.

See also http://www.bmwgroupfleet.com/

[SsixHiMod]

Originally Posted by firedown31

Fleet discount? It's $1500 for the M3/4. Make sure you work out your sale price first and THEN bring up the fleet discount.

See also http://www.bmwgroupfleet.com/

Is that what corporate discount is? I thought it was something else.

[firedown31]

Originally Posted by kazak102

Is that what corporate discount is? I thought it was something else.

Yup. Even though the link has "fleet" in the name it's not used once on that page, they use "corporate". They're often referred together, "corporate fleet" discount.

[JoeyBananas]

These are the lowest residuals for this time of year since the F8x came out no?

Will April or May see an increase?

[trey100]

Originally Posted by JoeyBananas

These are the lowest residuals for this time of year since the F8x came out no?

Will April or May see an increase?

I really hope. I was really surprised when they went down 1% after December. But they've brought the lease cash up to $1,500 which is effectively the same as 2% higher residual.

[swalsh2333]

Anyone know what the lease should be on a M4 with a MSRP of $75k in NY.

I will pre-pay taxes and first month payment.

Scott

[hockey21]

500 over invoice + incentives

[trey100]

So a dealership is telling me that they have a May allocation. Can dealerships get them 2 months in advance?

Also since I wouldn't be able to lock in March numbers for a May allocation/build, I'd have to roll the dice that the rates won't be worse or at least much worse than March. I can lock back in in May and still have June and probably July to get a good rate. Doesn't seem risky as long as I get them to agree on a $ above invoice.

Do you think that's pretty low risk or would you wait?

[MadZarBMR]

Originally Posted by trey100

So a dealership is telling me that they have a May allocation. Can dealerships get them 2 months in advance?

Also since I wouldn't be able to lock in March numbers for a May allocation/build, I'd have to roll the dice that the rates won't be worse or at least much worse than March. I can lock back in in May and still have June and probably July to get a good rate. Doesn't seem risky as long as I get them to agree on a $ above invoice.

Do you think that's pretty low risk or would you wait?

Allocations are given month to month so dealer is guessing that they will get one and currently don't have a waiting list for May. They could just be trying to keep you from taking your business elsewhere. Just get your name on their list and keep on searching. Don't give a deposit and dont let them run a credit app until they have an allocation for you. It should not cost a penny to get on a waiting list.

[trey100]

Originally Posted by MadZarBMR

Allocations are given month to month so dealer is guessing that they will get one and currently don't have a waiting list for May. They could just be trying to keep you from taking your business elsewhere. Just get your name on their list and keep on searching. Don't give a deposit and dont let them run a credit app until they have an allocation for you. It should not cost a penny to get on a waiting list.

Uh. If this is correct then I no longer trust him.

I even questioned him based on what I read here.

I'll keep him on the hook as a backup for poor, unsportsmanlike behavior.

Also, I assume you can't lock in rates until you have an actual production number?

[M5Beast_NYC]

Originally Posted by richrich121

Anyone know if the MF drops with MSD and if so what the MSD becomes for march? Also, with ED what can I anticipate to save vs buying it at the dealer?



Heres the deal I'm looking at, 16 M3 black sapphire/black leather, 6spd, 19 inch wheels for buying at the dealer.

MSRP $67,200.00
Negotiated Price $65,050.00
Lease Incentive $1,500.00
Sales Tax Rate 9.00% - CA San Francisco :-(
Money Factor 0.001350
Residual 61% @ 10k @ 36mo
MSD $0

Drive-off $1,445.84
Total Monthly Payment $836.84

Residual is 61%? thats great. is that the going residual now for 10k/36Mo.

[firedown31]

Originally Posted by trey100

Uh. If this is correct then I no longer trust him.

I even questioned him based on what I read here.

I'll keep him on the hook as a backup for poor, unsportsmanlike behavior.

Also, I assume you can't lock in rates until you have an actual production number?

It's correct. Allocations come out the first week of each month, with build dates during the following month. Pretty sure rates can be locked whenever, it just takes a credit app. But with a May build there is a really low chance of you getting to use March rates, the car would need to be at the dealer before May 31. so taking a hard credit pull may not be worth it.

[trey100]

Originally Posted by firedown31

It's correct. Allocations come out the first week of each month, with build dates during the following month. Pretty sure rates can be locked whenever, it just takes a credit app. But with a May build there is a really low chance of you getting to use March rates, the car would need to be at the dealer before May 31. so taking a hard credit pull may not be worth it.

Thanks so much. So to be clear, any allocations that the dealer gets in April will be for builds in May (as you mentioned "the following month"). They wouldn't get a an April allocation for an April build then?

That makes sense as I can see him rolling the dice with a couple of weeks to go.

Thanks again.

[///MIKE M]

Originally Posted by hockey21

500 over invoice + incentives

I assume the same numbers for an F80??

Shoot me a PM where your finding that around here.

[MadZarBMR]

Originally Posted by trey100

Thanks so much. So to be clear, any allocations that the dealer gets in April will be for builds in May (as you mentioned "the following month"). They wouldn't get a an April allocation for an April build then?

That makes sense as I can see him rolling the dice with a couple of weeks to go.

Thanks again.

So what exactly did the CA say? They have an allocation in April for a May build week or literally an allocation in May for a June build week? Allocations in a given month come with build weeks into the following month.

Either way, as previously stated, you wont have your car by end of May. Rates can be locked 60 days if you are on east coast and 90 if on west coast. Only possble way of using March rates is if you order a car with an open allocation and build week in April and that would need to be an early april build to have the car in time. Or find a dealer on the west coast to get 90 days. You would need to factor shipping into your deal.

If I were you, I would roll the dice on rates improving as they try to close out MY 2016.

[trey100]

Originally Posted by MadZarBMR

So what exactly did the CA say? They have an allocation in April for a May build week or literally an allocation in May for a June build week? Allocations in a given month come with build weeks into the following month.

Either way, as previously stated, you wont have your car by end of May. Rates can be locked 60 days if you are on east coast and 90 if on west coast. Only possble way of using March rates is if you order a car with an open allocation and build week in April and that would need to be an early april build to have the car in time. Or find a dealer on the west coast to get 90 days. You would need to factor shipping into your deal.

If I were you, I would roll the dice on rates improving as they try to close out MY 2016.

He said he has a May build which according to what I am reading here is just not truthful.

I understand the 60 day lock so regardless I have to wait until I have an actual allocation or should I say REAL allocation to lock in the rate.

My guess is he will string me along telling me he is "getting a production number" until April and hope he gets an allocation.