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      02-05-2014, 01:40 PM   #67
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Typical delicate crap leather in the Mcars. I am a longtime BMW fanboi and have owned so many, but this is my number 1 complaint about the interior when compared to MB, Lexus...etc.

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Didn't you order one with SO interior?
I am skipping CCB. Don't really need one for daily drive.
I also cant see myself needing the CCBs for the regular street driving I do. All it seems like is higher maintenance costs which is especially true if I plan to keep it after the warranty.

I'm not very familiar with CCBs. Can the disks be swapped with regular disks at some point?

It would be cool if they just created a nice OEM BBK instead.
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      02-05-2014, 02:56 PM   #71
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Typical delicate crap leather in the Mcars. I am a longtime BMW fanboi and have owned so many, but this is my number 1 complaint about the interior when compared to MB, Lexus...etc.

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Ummmm.....that's a personal issue, not a leather issue. I've never seen leather look that bad in a BMW. What do you do, work in an auto shop or something, and then get into your car while wearing dirty clothes????
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Ummmm.....that's a personal issue, not a leather issue. I've never seen leather look that bad in a BMW. What do you do, work in an auto shop or something, and then get into your car while wearing dirty clothes????
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Ummmm.....that's a personal issue, not a leather issue. I've never seen leather look that bad in a BMW. What do you do, work in an auto shop or something, and then get into your car while wearing dirty clothes????
Ummmm, that's not my car first of all, so not the personal issue you are implying. It's the M3/4 from page 1 of this thread. Secondly, BMW is notorious for sagging leather in the driver seat, cracked and pealing bolsters as well. I am very careful when getting in and out of my cars and the leather looks better than most other M cars I see after 3-4yrs. But even still it is relatively delicate compared to other premium brand competitors IMO. There is many that would agree.
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      02-05-2014, 03:11 PM   #75
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Ummmm, that's not my car first of all, so not the personal issue you are implying. It's the M3/4 from page 1 of this thread. Secondly, BMW is notorious for sagging leather in the driver seat, cracked and pealing bolsters as well. I am very careful when getting in and out of my cars and the leather looks better than most other M cars I see after 3-4yrs. But even still it is relatively delicate compared to other premium brand competitors IMO. There is many that would agree.

Well you weren't very clear, and your statement was typed in such a way that I believed it was your seat. Either way, that is one horrible seat (..and it's still the driver's issue rather than an issue with the quality/craftsmanship of the leather).
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who knows what this car has been through. I wouldn't let this temper anyone's excitement about silverstone.
Suspect indeed that these 2 cars are coming straight from Brussels motor show which had more than 600,000 visitors...so nothing to worry imo. It took 15 years of daily usage before my light grey leather on E36 M3 started to have significant wear/cracks
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looks cheap (interior and exterior) compared to my new E9x. Would have chosen a used GT-R instead if I could not have gotten my E9x order in time by end of production, i'm thrilled to own a new 2013 E9x M3.
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Well you weren't very clear, and your statement was typed in such a way that I believed it was your seat. Either way, that is one horrible seat (..and it's still the driver's issue rather than an issue with the quality/craftsmanship of the leather).
Look, I don't know what your deal is? I don't think it's my responsibility to make my post more clear because you chose to ignore the entire thread(including the ORIGINAL POST, lol) to help you avoid confusion. Also, to argue against my "OPINION" that is shared among many others who would agree that BMW leathers are a weak link in the interior seems odd to me. Compare any M3 interior that is 5yrs old to any Porsche 911(or even MB, Lexus an even Audi) that is twice as old and you will see what I am talking about.

And for the record here is just a few examples of threads(none of which I started) on here alone with similar complaints:

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...46&postcount=1

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...13&postcount=1

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looks cheap (interior and exterior) compared to my new E9x. Would have chosen a used GT-R instead if I could not have gotten my E9x order in time by end of production, i'm thrilled to own a new 2013 E9x M3.
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I found it comical too.
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I found it comical too.
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Look, I don't know what your deal is? I don't think it's my responsibility to make my post more clear because you chose to ignore the entire thread(including the ORIGINAL POST, lol) to help you avoid confusion. Also, to argue against my "OPINION" that is shared among many others who would agree that BMW leathers are a weak link in the interior seems odd to me. Compare any M3 interior that is 5yrs old to any Porsche 911(or even MB, Lexus an even Audi) that is twice as old and you will see what I am talking about.
Wow! You completely disregarded the " " I put at the end of my post (..which usually denotes or indicates a non-confrontational post). Oh well, can't please them all. I took your post at face value based on what you said and the picture you posted. What was discussed previously is IRRELEVANT. You made a comment about the "typical delicate crap leather in the ///M cars", but chose to post a picture of somebody's dirty, oily seat (..or what appears to be), NOT one where the leather seems to have broken down prematurely. Your fault, not mine! Had you posted a different picture, my response would have been completely different.
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I must be missing the part where it's the leather's fault for having dye and other residue discolor it.

Also, why should it be a shock that you need to condition your leather and take care of it?

What type of magic leather does Porsche use that is immune from this trickery?
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I must be missing the part where it's the leather's fault for having dye and other residue discolor it.

What type of magic leather does Porsche use that is immune from this trickery?

That was my point as well. The photo he posted didn't bolster his rant.
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I found it comical too.
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this leather quality is a joke, so is the rectangular navg. I can see the last few years of economic depression by looking at those picture. BMW sure knows how to cut costs on quality.
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That was my point as well. The photo he posted didn't support his rant.
And I've had my car approaching 6 years (yes, it's Dakota leather) but I take care of it and it looks absolutely fine with no discoloration, cracking, or fade.

It's not that hard to take care of leather, it's really not.
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this leather quality is a joke, so is the rectangular navg. I can see the last few years of economic depression by looking at those picture. BMW sure knows how to cut costs on quality

What's your point? I've also owned many E9X and E46 M3's (...and I was already on my 5th M3 before you bought your first one). Why do current M3 owners always have to reduce a discussion down to the car somebody currently drives? Not that the 'Drives' information is always up to date, but even still, it's like you guys purposely disregard, "prev. IB, AW M3's". Imbeciles!
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sunsweet, you should just walk away now
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