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      05-28-2015, 09:23 AM   #1
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"Police have nabbed a motorist in central Alberta who was clocked driving 248 km/h in a 100 km/h zone — about the same takeoff speed as a Boeing 737 jet airliner."

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe...ticle24659809/

Funny thing is he was on his way to the race track......


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      05-28-2015, 09:27 AM   #2
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"Police have nabbed a motorist in central Alberta who was clocked driving 248 km/h in a 100 km/h zone — about the same takeoff speed as a Boeing 737 jet airliner."

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe...ticle24659809/

Funny thing is he was on his way to the race track......

@#$%ing Alberta....

Remind me to never go there.
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That's 154 mph. Assuming Canadian cars have the same electronically limited speed he was running as fast as the car would take him.
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      05-28-2015, 09:57 AM   #5
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...too bad they didn't catch the Genesis he was chasing.
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      05-28-2015, 09:59 AM   #6
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as much as I hate unreasonable penalties as to speeding, what he did was fantastically fucking irresponsible, and he deserves the penalties that will come his way.

that being said, texting while driving is still much more dangerous to me, much more prevalent, and that should be the real regulatory focus.
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I do like the investigative reporting they did looking into the BMW website. "The BMW website says its M3 is a high performance model that is designed to give drivers “the true sensation of motor sports.”"
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He was doing 92 MPH over the speed limit. Really?
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      05-28-2015, 10:53 AM   #10
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...too bad they didn't catch the Genesis he was chasing.
Genny zone.. gets ya every time.
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Haha, I had about 6 people text me this.

We have alot of this in Alberta.... At least he was on the highway. There have been some ridiculous speeds people have been caught doing in town on freeways or regular roads.

Not saying its right, but at least it wasn't in town....
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Genny zone.. gets ya every time.
The Genesis was so fast that the speedgun gave an error. That's why they only cought the M3.
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That's 154 mph. Assuming Canadian cars have the same electronically limited speed he was running as fast as the car would take him.
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Haha, I had about 6 people text me this.

We have alot of this in Alberta.... At least he was on the highway. There have been some ridiculous speeds people have been caught doing in town on freeways or regular roads.

Not saying its right, but at least it wasn't in town....
Yup.

My own sense of it is: he is far from the only person with one of these cars to hit that kind of speed....

It was 7.45 am on a rural road (not a multi-lane highway by any means - simple highway with fairly small shoulders) - here is a photo from google maps

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I know the highway - unless you are going somewhere specific or on a drive, it really is a road to nowhere.

So, probably not going to hurt anyone but himself BUT....talk to a first responder about how much fun it would be to clean him off the pavement if he had a problem....

I guess I am saying I don't think what he did was morally terrible and, if I thought I would get away with it, I could see myself doing the same thing (just have never had the opportunity or cajones around where I live)....but I am also not completely sorry he will face a punishment (but I tend to be a bit 'meh, broke the law, there is a punishment. don't like the law? get it changed...' kind of guy.....)

(and he won't get jail time - he'll get a fine, a license suspension and probably a conditional discharge or probation or something that he can get pardoned in a few years)
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So it was on the hwy... maybe in the middle of nowhere with no one...

Now why does Germany not see a problem with this and everyone else does? Oh yeah, because they realize that under proper circumstances going fast isnt a crime.
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So it was on the hwy... maybe in the middle of nowhere with no one...

Now why does Germany not see a problem with this and everyone else does? Oh yeah, because they realize that under proper circumstances going fast isnt a crime.
They also have better road conditions and tighter license requirements. I have mentioned for years the US (and other countries) should allow for application of speed rated licenses. Extra fees, testing, and harsher penalties for infractions. Then at least you could have the possibility of driving faster on designated roads.

Also Germans as a society have made a moral decision they can live with. Higher speeds and more freedom for increased risk in the event of a high speed collision. US and Canada don't value that proposition.

Just look at the ridiculous warning stickers in our cars.
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So it was on the hwy... maybe in the middle of nowhere with no one...

Now why does Germany not see a problem with this and everyone else does? Oh yeah, because they realize that under proper circumstances going fast isnt a crime.
It is because Germans make sure that their drivers possess adequate skill behind the wheel before giving them a license.
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So it was on the hwy... maybe in the middle of nowhere with no one...

Now why does Germany not see a problem with this and everyone else does? Oh yeah, because they realize that under proper circumstances going fast isnt a crime.
They also have better road conditions and tighter license requirements. I have mentioned for years the US (and other countries) should allow for application of speed rated licenses. Extra fees, testing, and harsher penalties for infractions. Then at least you could have the possibility of driving faster on designated roads.

Also Germans as a society have made a moral decision they can live with. Higher speeds and more freedom for increased risk in the event of a high speed collision. US and Canada don't value that proposition.

Just look at the ridiculous warning stickers in our cars.
The first paragraph i agree w 100%, the 2nd is jibber jabber that no can really explain.
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So it was on the hwy... maybe in the middle of nowhere with no one...

Now why does Germany not see a problem with this and everyone else does? Oh yeah, because they realize that under proper circumstances going fast isnt a crime.
It is because Germans make sure that their drivers possess adequate skill behind the wheel before giving them a license.
Sure, why cant we?
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So it was on the hwy... maybe in the middle of nowhere with no one...

Now why does Germany not see a problem with this and everyone else does? Oh yeah, because they realize that under proper circumstances going fast isnt a crime.
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They also have better road conditions and tighter license requirements. I have mentioned for years the US (and other countries) should allow for application of speed rated licenses. Extra fees, testing, and harsher penalties for infractions. Then at least you could have the possibility of driving faster on designated roads.

Also Germans as a society have made a moral decision they can live with. Higher speeds and more freedom for increased risk in the event of a high speed collision. US and Canada don't value that proposition.

Just look at the ridiculous warning stickers in our cars.
Yeah, I wont defend North American speed limits (they are stupidly low) but I also won't defend North American drivers (they are stupid. period.)

People in Germany know how the left lane works (unless ACTIVELY PASSING stay the f--k out of it), they have much much better driver training, etc.

But they will also fine the bejeezus out of you in Europe. They'll tow you in France, etc.

I think if they made more realistic speed limits here and made all drivers do some sort of re-testing every few years (say norm is every 5 years but more frequent when very young or very old) that might help.

(also: this is a rural highway. a looooong way from an Autobahn. it would probably have a 100 km/h speed limit in Germany too)
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The first paragraph i agree w 100%, the 2nd is jibber jabber that no can really explain.
I think his point is that in the USA, if I crash my car, I sue the car maker. in Germany, I go to the hospital.

North American society has become quick to blame rather than accept risk onto ourselves.
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The first paragraph i agree w 100%, the 2nd is jibber jabber that no can really explain.
I think his point is that in the USA, if I crash my car, I sue the car maker. in Germany, I go to the hospital.

North American society has become quick to blame rather than accept risk onto ourselves.
You just hit the crux of the problem... but that goes way above just speeding.
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So it was on the hwy... maybe in the middle of nowhere with no one...

Now why does Germany not see a problem with this and everyone else does? Oh yeah, because they realize that under proper circumstances going fast isnt a crime.
As other have said, I would see your point more if we took driving and driver training as serious as they did in Germany. Also if we kept our roads in the same condition as the Autobahn. Last point, this was a two lane road and not a divided highway. Much more dangerous if there was oncoming traffic etc.
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