South Africa’s IOL: "Tested: BMW M4 Competition Pack is hardly worth it"

uniqueMR · 12-11-2017, 10:23 AM

Do we agree?

Tested: BMW M4 Competition Pack is hardly worth it: https://www.iol.co.za/motoring/road-...th-it-12165058

DocWeatherington · 12-11-2017, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by uniqueMR

Do we agree?

Tested: BMW M4 Competition Pack is hardly worth it: https://www.iol.co.za/motoring/road-...th-it-12165058

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The Comp Pack was never about 0-XX, times it was about driving dynamics.

I have the standard M3 and have driven the Comp Pack and if the Comp Pack was an option when i purchased, I would've checked the box. Its a solid improvement.

Super Spartan · 12-11-2017, 10:37 AM

Gibson6594 · 12-11-2017, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by DocWeatherington

The Comp Pack was never about 0-XX, times it was about driving dynamics.

I have the standard M3 and have driven the Comp Pack and if the Comp Pack was an option when i purchased, I would of check the box. Its a solid improvement.

You have to read the article. They are saying hardly worth it.

"Acceleration aside, that 136 grand can be felt in other areas; though it’s up to you to decide if throwing this much cash at firmer suspension and grippier handling is worth it or not. Springs, dampers and swaybars have all been tweaked to make the Competition a bit more deft in corners and on track, where it’s certainly more planted than a standard M4."

mkoesel · 12-11-2017, 11:03 AM

Regardless of whether the Competition Package is worth the price, other than clickbait, I fail to see the value in publishing numbers that are so vastly out of sync with what reputable automotive publications have been able to reproduce. It's junk data as far as I'm concerned.

Db750 · 12-11-2017, 11:14 AM

Only read the first few paragraphs which was long enough to see them admit that tests were done on different days as in "these numbers mean absolutely nothing". Also sounds like test were done at 5k+ altitude, which coupled with poor driving skills (assuming the authors driving skills are on par with his writing skills), would completely explain the difference in BMW's quoted time's and this one persons results over multiple days

CanAutM3 · 12-11-2017, 11:34 AM

Have a look at this thread: http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1376759

Looking at 0-100km/h acceleration single test numbers in isolation is pretty meaningless. First, due to test-to-test variation. Second, because 0-100km/h is highly dependent on traction. In the thread I referenced, I averaged multiple tests for 100 to 200km/h acceleration numbers to get a better feel for the difference in power. It shows that, on average, the CP is about 0.3 seconds faster from 100 to 200km/h than a base M3/4. It is not a huge difference, but it is not negligible.

Further, the CP is not only about the power boost. As the article and previous posters mention, it is also about a suspension tuning more aggressively biased towards improving the handling with stiffer springs, anti roll bars, wider tires and recalibrated electronics. The CP is not necessarily for everyone, but for those who prefer a slight bias towards sharper handling over a more comfortable ride, the CP is the right choice.

Aaaaaaaaa · 12-11-2017, 11:51 AM

Brb returning my car right now. Will report back when I get a Civic M3 with moonroof and DCT

Parabolica · 12-11-2017, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by pheerlx

Brb returning my car right now. Will report back when I get a Civic M3 with moonroof and DCT

Make sure it has SSII delete as well.

Nightmare1708 · 12-11-2017, 01:03 PM

As a South African I can tell you that iol is a terrible source of information.

Aaaaaaaaa · 12-11-2017, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Parabolica

Make sure it has SSII delete as well.

Individual color: M Performance Primer Grey because weight savings

Kimeran · 12-14-2017, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Db750

Only read the first few paragraphs which was long enough to see them admit that tests were done on different days as in "these numbers mean absolutely nothing". Also sounds like test were done at 5k+ altitude, which coupled with poor driving skills (assuming the authors driving skills are on par with his writing skills), would completely explain the difference in BMW's quoted time's and this one persons results over multiple days

This is true.
Also, our tracks here in South Africa are nowhere near as good as the ones in the US.
So that 400m time is about right.

Alpine300zhp · 12-16-2017, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by DocWeatherington

Quote:

Originally Posted by uniqueMR

Do we agree?

Tested: BMW M4 Competition Pack is hardly worth it: https://www.iol.co.za/motoring/road-...th-it-12165058

.

The Comp Pack was never about 0-XX, times it was about driving dynamics.

I have the standard M3 and have driven the Comp Pack and if the Comp Pack was an option when i purchased, I would've checked the box. Its a solid improvement.

Agreed. I have a comp pack M3 and an early 2015 build M4 without comp pack. The comp pack is worth it.

GrussGott · 12-16-2017, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by pheerlx

Brb returning my car right now. Will report back when I get a Civic M3 with moonroof and DCT

Gawd dammit! I just ordered the comp pack and it's not even delivered yet!

Thanks a lot uniqueMR, now I gotta get something else.

uniqueMR · 12-16-2017, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by GrussGott

Gawd dammit! I just ordered the comp pack and it's not even delivered yet!

Thanks a lot uniqueMR, now I gotta get something else.

hahaha. You welcome. But you will still get ZCP package, I can feel it

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