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[azula]

So I sent out my first round of emails with this offer:



I received one pretty aggressive offer thus far. This particular dealer is out of state and is saying it will cost an additional $500.00 to have this car delivered to my local CA after ED. Is this true? I thought it can be delivered to any CA stateside for free after ED. Please advise thanks!

[GrussGott]

Originally Posted by azula

I received one pretty aggressive offer thus far. This particular dealer is out of state and is saying it will cost an additional $500.00 to have this car delivered to my local CA after ED. Is this true? I thought it can be delivered to any CA stateside for free after ED. Please advise thanks!

No, it's delivered to the dealer you bought it from. You can try to arrange "courtesy delivery" with a local dealer, but there's risk in it. $500 is pretty cheap, usually it's in the 900-1200 range depending on who / what type of truck etc.

The edge case might be that this particular dealer already knows he can courtesy deliver to your local dealer and is just planning on pocketing the $500.

All of this, though, is why I'm willing to pay more. I don't want a bunch of hassles down the road to ruin my experience.

[azula]

Originally Posted by GrussGott

No, it's delivered to the dealer you bought it from. You can try to arrange "courtesy delivery" with a local dealer, but there's risk in it. $500 is pretty cheap, usually it's in the 900-1200 range depending on who / what type of truck etc.

The edge case might be that this particular dealer already knows he can courtesy deliver to your local dealer and is just planning on pocketing the $500.

All of this, though, is why I'm willing to pay more. I don't want a bunch of hassles down the road to ruin my experience.

Thanks for the quick reply Gruss. I just bit the 500 dollar bullet, now waiting on a final out the door price from this dealer. Neither me or my SA has mentioned incentives yet which is great! I just want to make sure that the two incentives available to me at this point are holiday cash (1k) and if I finance through BMWFS (1k). Firstly is this correct? Secondly, should I negotiate these with my SA or are they straight from BMWNA?

[MRCUR]

Originally Posted by azula

Thanks for the quick reply Gruss. I just bit the 500 dollar bullet, now waiting on a final out the door price from this dealer. Neither me or my SA has mentioned incentives yet which is great! I just want to make sure that the two incentives available to me at this point are holiday cash (1k) and if I finance through BMWFS (1k). Firstly is this correct? Secondly, should I negotiate these with my SA or are they straight from BMWNA?

You should clarify if the CA is including those incentives in the current pricing. I would bet they are.

You negotiate with the CA. That's it. I believe only the holiday cash is available. Some dealers are running a charity event this month that gets you an additional $1k, so perhaps that's what you're referencing.

[azula]

Originally Posted by MRCUR

You should clarify if the CA is including those incentives in the current pricing. I would bet they are.

You negotiate with the CA. That's it. I believe only the holiday cash is available. Some dealers are running a charity event this month that gets you an additional $1k, so perhaps that's what you're referencing.

I was referencing THIS. However it seems as though the holiday cash and finance incentive are one in the same.

[///M///]

Originally Posted by azula

Thanks for the quick reply Gruss. I just bit the 500 dollar bullet, now waiting on a final out the door price from this dealer. Neither me or my SA has mentioned incentives yet which is great! I just want to make sure that the two incentives available to me at this point are holiday cash (1k) and if I finance through BMWFS (1k). Firstly is this correct? Secondly, should I negotiate these with my SA or are they straight from BMWNA?

You owe me lunch if this goes through I see you are in FL. I would get it delivered free to Spartanburg, SC and do a PCD. That will be the ultimate way to buy your car, ED followed by a performance center delivery. You can fly to SC from FL for way less than $500, enjoy dinner on BMW's dime, then a whole day of fun at the performance center and the awesome drive back. It is a no brainer

[///M///]

Forgot to add, you might want to check the actual numbers for FL registration, Tag and Title. I was just guesstimating. You don't want the dealer making even one extra dollar off that as it's a set fee per the state.

[azula]

Ok here are the results from Day 1 of negotiating thanks to dsm918

Proposal:



Their counter:




I'd say that this is pretty DAMN GOOD . Also, the invoice price I had was slightly wrong, instead of $58,605 it is $58,675. Two independent dealers corrected this small error. As you can see, the $500.00 delivery charge was added to the invoice price. DSM918, I would love that awesome PCD experience and my SA actually suggested it as well. The only problem is, I know it would be absolute torture for me to put that many miles on my brand new M4 driving back down to FL. I'm kind of OCD, lol.


I mentioned the incentive after I received this counter and my SA initially told me that the incentive does not qualify when doing a European Delivery. I told him I verified that it does. He then stated that I might not get it because of the 60 day limit and he didn't want to make a promise he couldn't keep. Does this "holiday cash" come in the form of a rebate from BMWNA or do I get it directly from the dealership? I know it doesn't cut into the dealerships profits but where exactly is it coming from? I don't want to press my SA if he isn't responsible for it anyways. Also what do you guys think about the deal? This almost seemed too easy so I am definitely proceeding with caution. My SA also assured me that they do have allocation, keeping fingers crossed!

[Doctor///M]

Originally Posted by azula

Ok here are the results from Day 1 of negotiating thanks to dsm918

I'd say that this is pretty DAMN GOOD . I mentioned the incentive after I received this counter and my SA initially told me that the incentive does not qualify when doing a European Delivery. I told him that I verified that it does. He then stated that I might not get it because of the 60 day limit and he didn't want to make a promise he couldn't keep. Does this "holiday cash" come in the form of a rebate from BMWNA or do I get it directly from the dealership? I know it doesn't cut into the dealerships profits but where exactly is it coming from? I don't want to press my SA if he isn't responsible for it anyways. Also what do you guys think about the deal?

It comes directly from the dealership and is built into the sale transaction. I believe they do the paperwork through BMWNA on their end.

Keep in mind that the incentive available for the particular month that you pay down for the car is the one that applies (1-2 weeks before ED). If that's after Dec 31, then you'll have to see what incentive applies at that time.

[///M///]

Originally Posted by azula

Ok here are the results from Day 1 of negotiating thanks to dsm918

Proposal:



Their counter:




I'd say that this is pretty DAMN GOOD . Also, the invoice price I had was slightly wrong, instead of $58,605 it is $58,675. Two independent dealers corrected this small error. As you can see, the $500.00 delivery charge was added to the invoice price. DSM918, I would love that awesome PCD experience and my SA actually suggested it as well. The only problem is, I know it would be absolute torture for me to put that many miles on my brand new M4 driving back down to FL. I'm kind of OCD, lol.


I mentioned the incentive after I received this counter and my SA initially told me that the incentive does not qualify when doing a European Delivery. I told him I verified that it does. He then stated that I might not get it because of the 60 day limit and he didn't want to make a promise he couldn't keep. Does this "holiday cash" come in the form of a rebate from BMWNA or do I get it directly from the dealership? I know it doesn't cut into the dealerships profits but where exactly is it coming from? I don't want to press my SA if he isn't responsible for it anyways. Also what do you guys think about the deal? This almost seemed too easy so I am definitely proceeding with caution. My SA also assured me that they do have allocation, keeping fingers crossed!

Great Can you elaborate on the $70 difference? Might need to correct my calculator their doc fees is $100 too high. I would counter back to lower that. No harm in trying. You lost me on the high miles. Drive your car to enjoy it man. Everything I have read on the PCD has be extremely positive. Don't miss out.

[IRNM4N]

Originally Posted by azula

Ok here are the results from Day 1 of negotiating thanks to dsm918

Proposal:



Their counter:




I'd say that this is pretty DAMN GOOD . Also, the invoice price I had was slightly wrong, instead of $58,605 it is $58,675. Two independent dealers corrected this small error. As you can see, the $500.00 delivery charge was added to the invoice price. DSM918, I would love that awesome PCD experience and my SA actually suggested it as well. The only problem is, I know it would be absolute torture for me to put that many miles on my brand new M4 driving back down to FL. I'm kind of OCD, lol.


I mentioned the incentive after I received this counter and my SA initially told me that the incentive does not qualify when doing a European Delivery. I told him I verified that it does. He then stated that I might not get it because of the 60 day limit and he didn't want to make a promise he couldn't keep. Does this "holiday cash" come in the form of a rebate from BMWNA or do I get it directly from the dealership? I know it doesn't cut into the dealerships profits but where exactly is it coming from? I don't want to press my SA if he isn't responsible for it anyways. Also what do you guys think about the deal? This almost seemed too easy so I am definitely proceeding with caution. My SA also assured me that they do have allocation, keeping fingers crossed!

Awesome job! I pm'd you as I am literally a week behind.

-Chris

[BigDog]

I apologize if its been mentioned already, but does anyone have ED invoice pricing available?

I'm looking to place an order for my M3, and would be willing to move rather quickly....

[///M///]

Originally Posted by BigDog

I apologize if its been mentioned already, but does anyone have ED invoice pricing available?

I'm looking to place an order for my M3, and would be willing to move rather quickly....

Read this thread . It is mentioned plenty of times. You can always multiply the US MSRP by 0.86 to get an estimate.

[BigDog]

Originally Posted by dsm918

Read this thread . It is mentioned plenty of times. You can always multiply the US MSRP by 0.86 to get an estimate.

thank you good sir

does that go for options as well?

[///M///]

Originally Posted by BigDog

thank you good sir

does that go for options as well?

I'd like to state that I am not an expert on this by any means. I am currently waiting on the 2016 so I can order it as soon as it comes out Meanwhile, I am just educating myself on the deals, pricing that's out there by doing a lot of reading on this forum and threads on Bimmerfest. This way I would feel well prepared by the time the 2016 comes out Are you planning on ED or US delivery?

[MRCUR]

Originally Posted by azula

Also what do you guys think about the deal? This almost seemed too easy so I am definitely proceeding with caution. My SA also assured me that they do have allocation, keeping fingers crossed!

Excellent job! I think he dealer fees are a tad high (I see someone else mentioned the doc fee is $100 too high, ask them to cut that down). Otherwise I think you now see how "easy" negotiating is when you're an informed buyer.

[BigDog]

Originally Posted by dsm918

I'd like to state that I am not an expert on this by any means. I am currently waiting on the 2016 so I can order it as soon as it comes out Meanwhile, I am just educating myself on the deals, pricing that's out there by doing a lot of reading on this forum and threads on Bimmerfest. This way I would feel well prepared by the time the 2016 comes out Are you planning on ED or US delivery?

I would like to do ED most likely why the 2016 over the 2015?

[///M///]

Originally Posted by BigDog

I would like to do ED most likely why the 2016 over the 2015?

Two reasons. I missed the window for the ED this summer. I don't want to do ED in the winter months. Plus I try not to buy the first year model.

[OneRib]

Originally Posted by azula

Ok here are the results from Day 1 of negotiating thanks to dsm918

Great job!. In one day you've gotten a great deal that you can take or use as leverage at a local dealer. Not sure about the fees in FL.

That's why I loved this forum. So much helpful info. Not sure you can get this with many other brands.

[OneRib]

Originally Posted by BigDog

I apologize if its been mentioned already, but does anyone have ED invoice pricing available?

I'm looking to place an order for my M3, and would be willing to move rather quickly....

I have not seen an official M3 ED invoice price. The M4 ED invoice price was leaked by a former member. You can guesstimate what the M3 would be, but it won't be exact.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

[///M///]

Originally Posted by OneRib

I have not seen an official M3 ED invoice price. The M4 ED invoice price was leaked by a former member. You can guesstimate what the M3 would be, but it won't be exact.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

Originally Posted by BigDog

I would like to do ED most likely

Let me get back on that one.

[azula]

Originally Posted by dsm918

Great Can you elaborate on the $70 difference? Might need to correct my calculator their doc fees is $100 too high. I would counter back to lower that. No harm in trying. You lost me on the high miles. Drive your car to enjoy it man. Everything I have read on the PCD has be extremely positive. Don't miss out.

Looks like ED invoice for the M4 is $55 flat and not $54,930 which was my original number. Both dealerships (that were transparent enough) to reveal ED invoice said that I my figure after MSRP options and $500 dealer profit was $70.00 dollars short. Not too shabby though. In the grand scheme of things 70 bucks on a 60+k car is almost spot on!