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Also, since the new C63 is coming out soon and the new RS5 is still a ways out, it would make sense to wait for the new merc for comparisons while battling the RS5 now. |
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06-25-2014, 01:36 PM | #27 |
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Don't really see a point because we already know that the M3/M4 is an improvement over the E92 so it would be nothing more than to see both cars side/side...which I guess would still be cool.
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06-25-2014, 01:38 PM | #28 |
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A 911 997 Turbo S does it in 1:08.9 A GTR does it in 1:09.3 As per AutoExpress video Watch "Porsche 911 Turbo S Vs Nissan GT-R review - Auto …" on YouTube Porsche 911 Turbo S Vs Nissan GT-R review - Auto …: So Damn The M3 is Faaaaaaast |
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Agree i know diffrent day ect but still impressive to get as close to those cars.
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06-25-2014, 01:51 PM | #31 | |
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Audi R8 V8 vs Porsche 911 4S Audi R8 V8- 1:12.0 911 4S - 1:11.8 |
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Agree the M3 is fast but the Turbo S and GTR had damp conditions on their laps so time comparison is probably not fair.
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06-25-2014, 01:54 PM | #33 |
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Daily driving the car, it is Fast I just drove a 991 GT3 and I felt it was Flat in terms of torque. Sounds amazing but the M3 was faster to me. |
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06-25-2014, 02:27 PM | #34 | |
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06-25-2014, 02:28 PM | #35 | |
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happens all the time, AWD traction or not. |
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This I the funniest thing I've read in a while. The M3/4 is not only slower, but isn't even approaching half the performance car that is a GT3 I don't care if you're talking 996 GT3.
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06-25-2014, 02:47 PM | #38 |
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Unfair comparisons of an aging Audi RS5 platform vs. the newest M4 BMW platform will yield these kinds of results. Recall that the RS4 was already slower than the e92 M3.
My recollection is also that even an x5M beat an RS4 in a track state side on a video I saw online some time back. I do not recall the video link but the x5M was faster! In any case, the E92 platform vs. the M4 platform should be the objective comparison. This would demonstrate the progress in evolution of e92 --> F82. How much faster? Don't just take BMW's words... try it yourself. A more worthwhile comparison would be to show how far the M4 is to a GT3 or a 911 Turbo. On a track, how much time lapse between the Porsche GT3 or a turbo winning vs. the M4 catching up. And of course, another comparison would be to show what the M4 can do with dedicated slicks. After all, the car is touted as a track car, and with some learning of the car and minor acceptance of defeat, the M4 should come in not far behind... and the question is how far behind? And if the difference is not that bad, then if you are a good driver you may take on a race with one of these guys at a local track and see how you do. Comparing to other coupes and other sedans like the e63 family etc... is an old story, just like the RS5 comparison. The merc is softer and more focused on luxury. |
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Audi lost💣 The new Mercs are crap too. Feel free to get off the 8 and onto the turbo 6 Mercedes. BMW is maintaining power while improving MPG. Audi and Merc are exploiting the same tired V8 technology. Where will they both be in 4 years if they don't re-engineer their drive trains?.....irrelevant, that's where!
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06-25-2014, 02:56 PM | #41 | |
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But i just want to point out that even though it was damp for the 991 Turbo S and GTR and it is certainly no benefit for them in that condition but those cars also have very good AWD systems. So i dont think those cars have as much disadvantage in the damp as RWD or FWD cars would have. What i mean by that is that the 911 and GTR not necessarily would be so much quicker around the track in dry conditions vs a RWD or FWD car in damp vs dry therefore the M4 time is impressive. Also one other thing ,for me just because one car is faster than another does not mean that it is a better car there is so much more to a car than that. It just fun to compare and discuss cars sometimes. Last edited by Holset; 06-25-2014 at 03:09 PM.. |
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this is pointless. of course the bimmer is obviously faster -no 4wd system to carry - and more entertaining. despite beeing similar and competitor car's they are built for 2 very different purposes. what amazes me is how good the audi looks despite its age and the interior - the dash dials are great imo - and only makes me wonder what the next gen is going to look like. I tested the M4 yesterday. great but not epic like the csl or the V10. it lacks spark. Not to worry. bmw will give it in the form of a 7 - 10k competion package in x months time. The nose still needs to loose 40kg - front engined of course - and if the windows are up it still feels a bit sedated. I think this is more a E39 M5 gone mental rather than a e46 CSL reincarnation- Now if they wanted to make this vid interesting bring in the cheaper cayman gts. Let the games begin
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06-25-2014, 03:06 PM | #43 | |
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The cars people cross-shop with the F80/2 seem to be the RS5, CTS/ATS-V, M5, M235, 911, F-type and C7. These are the comparisons we'll read.
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After tracking the M4 and the RS5 for 2 days, I can tell you that anybody spending that much money on this Audi is INSANE. Sorry but for th money, you can't beat the new M3 and M4. PERIOD!
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