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      04-17-2014, 10:49 AM   #23
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The roof rack on carbon roof question is still not answered. Sorry that i go on about this, but its the only thing that annoys me, esp since on the e92 with carbon roof it was possible.

Thanks anyway for thr other answers!
Why wouldn't this be possible? We've seen the rack inserts on F8x cars equipped with the CF roofs, haven't we? At any rate, they were available on the E92 w/ CF roofs, and given that BMW is a creature of habit, I seriously doubt that thy wouldn't retain the same functionality with this generation.

I wouldn't hold back from ordering a CF roof if that's the only question you have remaining.
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Good stuff. I may drop the adaptive suspension from my order now knowing that the passive setting is set between sport and sport+.
Me too. Comfort is not my concern.

I thought it was pretty much a given that there was no gas guzzlers tax.

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I think the most valuable (new) info we got from this interview is the confirmation of shift lights on 6MT cars .

It does not explain how come DCT is 34lb lighter in the US
So with the shift light on the 6spd, their is really no need to buy the performance steering wheel.

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According to official BMW European specs, the DCT is 89lbs heavier than the 6MT. Yet, US specs show DCT only 55lb heavier than the 6MT. Hence my 34lb...

Also according to EU specs, the M3 is 51lbs heavier than thr M4, yet the M4 is only 10lbs lighter according to US specs...
+1 I noticed that as will.
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Am I the only one who thinks the individual color choices suck?
moonstone is sexy.
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      04-17-2014, 11:01 AM   #28
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Moonstone is my favorite color.

Weight loss or lack thereof are speculative until someone weighs comparably equipped models on the same scales with same fuel loads. I suspect the actual loss will be more like 40-50lbs. F30 chassis is just plain bigger than E90, and tougher crash standards were applicaBle compared to the early mid 2000when E9x was on the drawing boards. Tough to hide that in an almost all-steel car
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Azurite Blue is a new color. Unless it was a typo and they meant Azurite Black.

Regarding the weight, that still puts the M3/M4 at about 800lbs less than the F10 M5/M6 Gran Coupe and about 650lbs less than the F13 M6. Pretty good and will definitely be a better drivers cars for sure.

Anyways, yeah people will just need to start weighing their new cars when they get them. There's truck weigh scales all around the U.S.

Also, a Carbon Fiber Hood would have been nice considering they are using Carbon in so many other places. Maybe on the next gen M3/M4 then.
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Moonstone is my favorite color.

Weight loss or lack thereof are speculative until someone weighs comparably equipped models on the same scales with same fuel loads. I suspect the actual loss will be more like 40-50lbs. F30 chassis is just plain bigger than E90, and tougher crash standards were applicaBle compared to the early mid 2000when E9x was on the drawing boards. Tough to hide that in an almost all-steel car
Its still confusing. because the e9x m3 had the same relationship between curb weight in the US and DIN weight. and the m3 was weighed many many times in the US at well lower than the us curb weight of 3704 lbs. I see no reason not to expect the same here.
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Thanks for asking the passive suspension question. Even better, the answer is perfect. The only reason for me to select adaptive would have been a spongy passive suspension. Now I can stick with passive with no concerns.
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This interview reinforces my decision NOT to go with an early model as I did with my e92 since Comp pack or maybe CSL are being mulled....with Comp coming for sure. I have a bare bones e92 with DCT and cloth but would have liked Comp MDM and other small goodies. On the other hand, if you mod your car, go ahead with the first model.

I don't have adaptive suspension and never once missed or needed it on the wonderful Chicago roads......and I am still Using it as my DD today....to much love for the S65 still....
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Moonstone is my favorite color.

Weight loss or lack thereof are speculative until someone weighs comparably equipped models on the same scales with same fuel loads. I suspect the actual loss will be more like 40-50lbs. F30 chassis is just plain bigger than E90, and tougher crash standards were applicaBle compared to the early mid 2000when E9x was on the drawing boards. Tough to hide that in an almost all-steel car
Its still confusing. because the e9x m3 had the same relationship between curb weight in the US and DIN weight. and the m3 was weighed many many times in the US at well lower than the us curb weight of 3704 lbs. I see no reason not to expect the same here.
I do. Marketing had realized weight is important. F30 328 was purported to be 60-70lb lighter and this has not turned out to be the case.
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Very interesting, thanks!
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      04-17-2014, 11:33 AM   #36
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Pyrite Brown, now that will be an unusual sight. Could be cool I guess but a brown M car just sounds, well wrong.
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Im wondering how much weight is due to the options of "more than 1/3" of the purchases. I'm expecting the weight is based on a fully loaded model. How much do you guys think is saved on a stripper model?

And since sport+ is too aggressive of a setting (for throttle) im leaning towards dct. Unless of course you could be in sport+ mode with throttle in comfort and not have auto blipping. Whats the fun in that?!
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No way to disable auto rev match outside of sport+is a big disappointment for me. I typically haven't liked the sportiest throttle calibrations in the past.
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Im wondering how much weight is due to the options of "more than 1/3" of the purchases. I'm expecting the weight is based on a fully loaded model. How much do you guys think is saved on a stripper model?

And since sport+ is too aggressive of a setting (for throttle) im leaning towards dct. Unless of course you could be in sport+ mode with throttle in comfort and not have auto blipping. Whats the fun in that?!
I'm pretty sure the setting that matters is the engine/throttle map. So you'd have to be in sport+ throttle map but everything else could be in comfort if you want.
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Pyrite Brown, now that will be an unusual sight. Could be cool I guess but a brown M car just sounds, well wrong.
^^ this
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Im wondering how much weight is due to the options of "more than 1/3" of the purchases. I'm expecting the weight is based on a fully loaded model. How much do you guys think is saved on a stripper model?

And since sport+ is too aggressive of a setting (for throttle) im leaning towards dct. Unless of course you could be in sport+ mode with throttle in comfort and not have auto blipping. Whats the fun in that?!
I'm pretty sure the setting that matters is the engine/throttle map. So you'd have to be in sport+ throttle map but everything else could be in comfort if you want.
But i dont mind sport+ steering and damping. I cant stand sport+ throttle. Guess its dct then. Oh well i have a 6mt e90m to hold me down
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Is this the standard approach to weighing cars -- and does this include a full tank -- and what are the options expected to be on 1/3 of M3/M4s sold?

"The way the US curb weight is measured includes full fluids in the car, all standard equipment for US market and all options that are expected to be equipped on more than one-thirds of M3/M4 sold (i.e. 19" wheels and DCT are included)."
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The DCT auto mode gets a big boost with the brake induced downshifts. This car is going to be fast around a track in D mode. Now we just need auto pilot... Seriously though this will make zipping around town in D mode a lot better since it's the biggest execution downside of the E9X DCT in D mode, the pause after breaking hard into a corner and applying throttle while the gear is selected.
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