Video: BMW M4, M3, M235i Introduced at Detroit Auto Show Press Conference

[GTME2010]

The exhaust was meant to be raspy from my understanding. Very reminiscent of the e46 csl

[Yay-Z]

Originally Posted by Dr.Sommer

Days of glory

oh man, you shouldnt have posted this. Sounds great.

That launch presentation and rev sound were terrible for the new m3/4

[nanceman]

M235i 0-100 in 4.8s!?!?

Someone forgot to check the unit of velocity in this country....

[PhillyNate]

Originally Posted by JoeFromPA

I'm sorry - that was a debut of a multi million dollar signature vehicle?

I'm seen high school seniors put together cleaner entrances with more oomph and give more rousing speeches. Yeesh. From a marketing perspective, I am sitting here cringing to the point it makes me feel less of the car.

This^
I said it before but this is one of the most peculiar rollouts of a new vehicle I've ever seen. Perhaps all part of the plan. This thing MUST be a game changer.

[JTO24]

I don't think it sounded bad.. I like the e46 rasp and my 335i held its own with the golf tee mod and this sounds similar to the latter (solely from this video). The whole introduction was underwhelming, though. Still excited to drive the new m3.

[Gunzaro]

I remember when I heard my first E46 M3...I was behind a phoenix yellow one and I knew it was a BMW M3 but I had no idea what engine it had, the specs etc etc. Was in my early 20's then. All I knew was that it was a fast car.

I heard it accelerate hard and I immediately thought it had a broken exhaust! Wanted to tell the owner at the traffic light that something was up with his exhaust but never did.

Sometime later I realised all these 6cyl M3's sounded like this stock and I really didn't care for it.

Just my opinion of course. Ended up owning 2 x N54 engine cars. Love the sound of the N54. Esp. the 335is and (Z4 35is) exhausts. Very decent for a 6cyl.

The new M3 in the vid sounds alright actually. But not as good as the concept S65 M3.

[Brosef]

Originally Posted by Gunzaro

I remember when I heard my first E46 M3...I was behind a phoenix yellow one and I knew it was a BMW M3 but I had no idea what engine it had, the specs etc etc. Was in my early 20's then. All I knew was that it was a fast car.

I heard it accelerate hard and I immediately thought it had a broken exhaust! Wanted to tell the owner at the traffic light that something was up with his exhaust but never did.

Sometime later I realised all these 6cyl M3's sounded like this stock and I really didn't care for it.

Just my opinion of course. Ended up owning 2 x N54 engine cars. Love the sound of the N54. Esp. the 335is and (Z4 35is) exhausts. Very decent for a 6cyl.

The new M3 in the vid sounds alright actually. But not as good as the concept S65 M3.

agreed regarding the sound of the e46. sounds a lot better coming than going (the intake sounds insanely good, but the exhaust sounds like the exhaust is rattling and about to fall off at WOT. still a great sounding car though.

I also owned an N54, and I liked the exhaust and turbo sounds at the time. I didn't know what I was missing until I heard an M3 and then bought one.

this new car won't sound close to the outgoing M. everyone knows that, and it bugs me that people still say it so frequently as if it's not pre-evident. the question is will it sound better than the N54 (which isn't the worst place to start), and I feel confident that it will. there will always be those that place the utmost importance on sound, and BMW understands that it has estranged those buyers with this new car. I'm not sure they mind so much, as I'd be willing to bet there are more people that would trade the sound in favor of the fuel efficiency (remember, this is a car for the masses and not for the forum-posting enthusiasts). just my 2 cents.

personally, I'm psyched to drive the new M3. if it meets my expectations, I'll buy one. if I miss the sound and feel of the V8, I'll be in the market for a lightly used e90 (need the 4 doors now). either way, good times to be had.

[W///]

Originally Posted by DarkstarZero

Was that talk supposed to be for enthusiasts or shareholders? Either way it was terrible.

I don't care about sales numbers, I care about cars. Actually, the only time I care about sales numbers is when it's very low - like less than 1,900 Z4M Coupes sold, less than 800 1Ms sold. These are rare cars and that makes owning one exciting. But talking about selling over 100,000 of this M, millions of that, my BMW no longer feels special.

Just terrible.

And here I was thinking that the way the car drives was what made them special, not because they are rare. Every M car that you have minus the Z4M was mass produced. So what? I'd love every single one of them (feel free to send them down South haha).

Personally I couldn't care less about media presentations. First it was 3 pages about people complaining how BMW brought an M3 with a sunroof (god forbid), now we are going to talk about entrances? What a joke.

Wake me up when Chris Harris gets his hands on one.

[1&done]

Originally Posted by pkim1079

Just watched these videos and so underwhelming. Never thought i would be so meh about a launch of the m cars. I feel like the execs are just bsing everyone. Is that bad?

Typical day in the corp. office life...sales figures, projections...blah blah blah...just stay focused on building awesome M cars and get those TPS reports in on time!

Skit = weird
Video = cool
Sound =

[Black Gold]

Originally Posted by W///

And here I was thinking that the way the car drives was what made them special, not because they are rare. Every M car that you have minus the Z4M was mass produced. So what? I'd love every single one of them (feel free to send them down South haha).

Personally I couldn't care less about media presentations. First it was 3 pages about people complaining how BMW brought an M3 with a sunroof (god forbid), now we are going to talk about entrances? What a joke.

Wake me up when Chris Harris gets his hands on one.

im with this guy

people complain about the lamest **** on this forum these days

I want to see some actual new information. Pricing, reviews, real order guide, etc...

[ufgtrs2007]

I remember when the E92 M3 was introduced, the sound and looks sent chills down my spine.

I can't say the same about the new M3/M4. I'm sure it's an amazing machine, I'll keep an open mind and look forward to seeing them this weekend.

[mikelowery]

Originally Posted by v1p3r

I can't be the only one who actually loved how the E46 M3 sounded, and the rasp it had?

I really like the M3 and M4 sound, might me in the minority now, but just like people miss this and miss that as soon as emotions settle and the car becomes more accepted in the mainstream people will come around. It was the same with people slating the E92 and now it's everybody's sweetheart.

Great job BMW, you never disappoint

If you ask me. the E46 is going to sound better than this car. Yes this new one is a I 6. The E46 was a high revving naturally aspirated engine with out turbos muffling sound. So no matter what the F80 is at a disadvantage with sound because of turbos.

[w3rkn]

This sedan has a CF roof, while the ones shown yesterday had a sunroof.

[stefan]

Originally Posted by kiloil

Was anyone disappointed when they started revving the engine? Its like this big entrance and then this little rev.

That's the problem with focusing all the sound into the exhaust and then relying on active sound for the induction. From outside the car, if it isn't under load, that's what it sounds like. Terrible.

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by dimabimmer

M3 M4
431 HP
550 Torque???

in US by June!

Metric vs imperial...

431ps and 550N-m

or

425hp and 405 ft-lb

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by Brosef

remember, this is a car for the masses and not for the forum-posting enthusiasts). just my 2 cents.

And this is exactly the issue a lot of us have. M3s used to be for a much more limited niche market oriented towards the enthousiasts. There was much less need for ///Marketing. People "who knew" would just go out an buy the cars. BMW are now going for a larger market share and more profit. If it were my business, I would certainly do the same so I cannot blame them.

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by ufgtrs2007

I remember when the E92 M3 was introduced, the sound and looks sent chills down my spine.

I can't say the same about the new M3/M4. I'm sure it's an amazing machine, I'll keep an open mind and look forward to seeing them this weekend.

+1 and +1 for both paragraphs.

Exactly my feeling

[mud hen medic]

I tried for all 4 mins and 38 secs of the above video to enjoy/like/get used to the sound of the M4 but I just can not get as excited about it as the E92. I realize the M4 has better curb weight, acceleration, handling, braking, fuel economy, and aesthetics than the E92 as its the next evolution; but it just doesn't evoke the same emotion as the E92. It just sounds so impotent as it rounds the track in the above video with "farts" at every down shift and a low hum under hard acceleration. Hardly something to be feared or revered.

For someone like me its more about how the car makes me feel when I drive it than anything else. I'm the type of guy who will buy a car with a 6MT over DCT without a second thought; and happily row my own gears as I listen to the beautiful sound of the engine not even bothering to turn on the radio.

I'll wait until I can test drive an M4 to make my final decision, but it might be a used E92 for me.

[Never Convicted]

Originally Posted by mud hen medic

I tried for all 4 mins and 38 secs of the above video to enjoy/like/get used to the sound of the M4 but I just can not get as excited about it as the E92. I realize the M4 has better curb weight, acceleration, handling, braking, fuel economy, and aesthetics than the E92 as its the next evolution; but it just doesn't evoke the same emotion as the E92. It just sounds so impotent as it rounds the track in the above video with "farts" at every down shift and a low hum under hard acceleration. Hardly something to be feared or revered.

For someone like me its more about how the car makes me feel when I drive it than anything else. I'm the type of guy who will buy a car with a 6MT over DCT without a second thought; and happily row my own gears as I listen to the beautiful sound of the engine not even bothering to turn on the radio.

I'll wait until I can test drive an M4 to make my final decision, but it might be a used E92 for me.

Thanks for sharing.

[Black Gold]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

And this is exactly the issue a lot of us have. M3s used to be for a much more limited niche market oriented towards the enthousiasts. There was much less need for ///Marketing. People "who knew" would just go out an buy the cars. .

I don't agree with you. the m3 will be faster in every way and outside of turbo vs n/a (debatable), superior on the track as well as a result of less weight, more tire, lower CG, superior chassis design and materials, and better brakes.

so how is it LESS catered towards enthusiasts than the comparably fat and soft e92?

[Deluxx3]

So gorgeous!

[Z8chP]

Originally Posted by v1p3r

I can't be the only one who actually loved how the E46 M3 sounded, and the rasp it had?

I really like the M3 and M4 sound, might me in the minority now, but just like people miss this and miss that as soon as emotions settle and the car becomes more accepted in the mainstream people will come around. It was the same with people slating the E92 and now it's everybody's sweetheart.

Great job BMW, you never disappoint

I feel exactly the same. So happy they brought the rasp back. I loved how it sounded.