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      01-13-2014, 12:14 AM   #111
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Can't wait to get more opinions from regular car folks who are lucky enough to see them in Detroit. Please report back on your opinions of the colors and cars in the flesh.
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      01-13-2014, 12:54 AM   #112
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Less than 12 hours till we get a lot more info. on US spec M3/4!
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      01-13-2014, 01:59 AM   #113
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New M3 and M4

Notice the 1st picture:
World premiere
The new BMW M3 sedan and new BMW M4 coupe.
It is just a matter of time when we'll hear BMW launching the M3 coupe and M4 sedan as well. This will be very funny. Trying to squeeze every bit from the market but this is not good for BMW, just more cookie cutter options to choose from.
What's left now, the all new 3-1/2 series and all new 4-1/2 series BMW?

I'm not impressed at all with new M3 M4 models as I was not impressed with the new M6 as well.
The only new M model that is worth the money-M5, that's it, no M5 2 door or M5 convertible or BS like that just simply M5.
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      01-13-2014, 02:48 AM   #114
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I'll switch this year from my e92 335i to the new M235i. i need one in estoril blue

Without badges, because we all know it's not really a ///M car
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      01-13-2014, 03:25 AM   #115
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I'll switch this year from my e92 335i to the new M235i. i need one in estoril blue

Without badges, because we all know it's not really a ///M car
No, it's an "M Performance" or semi-M car. But such a badge would be too long, not ?

And wait till you drive one. It will be much sportier than your 335i. You might reconsider the badge...
I know because I drove 335i as well, for 4 years.

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      01-13-2014, 03:31 AM   #116
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No, it's an "M Performance" or semi-M car. But such a badge would be too long, not ?

And what till you drive one. It will be much sportier than your 335i. You might reconsider the badge...
I know because I drove 335i as well, for 4 years.
i never ever drove a BMW with a Badge It will be sportier but for me this will never be a M Car.
At our local BMW Store is a 428xi with a M Badge because of the Bodykit...
BMW is throwing M Badges everywhere because of marketing

But i would not laugh at people who leave those factory badges... it's just something i wouldn't have on my car
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      01-13-2014, 04:30 AM   #117
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Looks like the M4 has LED light on it, but not the M3.
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No it doesn't!!!

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      01-13-2014, 04:31 AM   #118
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The wheels on the M4 seem to be gloss black, and due to the angles at which the photographs are taken, the reflections make them look polished.
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      01-13-2014, 04:35 AM   #119
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It makes sense that BMW is showing the 4 door with the sunroof and the coupe with the cf roof at the show. The coupe's emphasis is more sport whereas the 4 door is for transporting people in comfort.
Totally disagree, if comfort was the main criteria to buy the M3 you are better off with an M5 or F30 M-Sport. The M3 is for buyers that want the maximum in sport that BMW has to offer but need 4 doors. I.e it would make more sense to show the M3 as hard core as it can be had. Personally I like that it is shown with the sunroof since that is likely what I will order.
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      01-13-2014, 04:53 AM   #120
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The Detroit BMW show entry is there to sample these cars. It is not a show to please the entire customer base palate.

That M4 looks very sophisticated and evokes a modern look. This is hard on our eyes used to nearly 6 years of some familiarity with the e92. Also, we have a US car culture similar to soap box racing, where adding gizmos like spoilers, fins, lips and tints makes our cars faster in our thoughts. This car has no real estate for these items.

The M4 is following the steps of a 911 - there is no space to alter the car. If you do, it winds up affecting the look.

My guess is that it will be necessary to look at the M4 for a long time to truly appreciate it's aesthetic innovation.

The M3 looks are already familiar. So, it is easier to swallow the evolution from the e90.

I am glad BMW has given us two new cars to choose from. All the complaints on the dramatic changes brought by the M4 here convince me this is a breath of fresh air for the car lineup.
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      01-13-2014, 06:08 AM   #121
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Will the official US prices be announced? Military/Diplomatic sales have a price sheet but it's marked "preliminary." I'd like to see the actual cost sheet.

Also, any shots of the non CC brakes? Are they just the blue M-Sport brakes?
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      01-13-2014, 06:20 AM   #122
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Excited to see what info if any is released today
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      01-13-2014, 06:32 AM   #123
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Man, I can't wait to see the M4 in real life.
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      01-13-2014, 07:02 AM   #124
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      01-13-2014, 07:28 AM   #125
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I wish they had styled the M3 with the same trunk lid as the M4. The integrated spoiler looks more... integrated compared to the one on the M3 which, I assume, is just tacked on. Otherwise, both look great but I agree with others, I'm anxious to see other colors, although I'll probably go with the blue if I buy one. The important information will be when driving reviews are available.
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      01-13-2014, 07:45 AM   #126
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Excited to see what info if any is released today
me too

we better get the pricing information today......I cant handle any longer of a wait haha

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      01-13-2014, 08:17 AM   #127
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It looks like the M4 has way more wheel gap than the M3. Maybe it's just the way it's sitting.
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      01-13-2014, 08:30 AM   #128
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They couldn't choose two different colors

They look good though, shame they didn't bring them to the LA auto show to announce them to the public. Los Angeles seems like a bigger car city and not bankrupt either. Oh well. Kudos to BMW for knowing their customers.
Ignoring the bankruptcy comment but NAIAS is the most important Autoshow in the USA in amongst the many that are held that you see a more expressive BMW presence than in New York or Los Angeles. With three world premieres compared to LAs joint World Premiere with Tokyo for the BMW 4er Cabrio.

The NAIAS is a huge event not just for BMW , but the manufacturers attending and the city and people of Detroit.
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      01-13-2014, 09:09 AM   #129
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Ignoring the bankruptcy comment but NAIAS is the most important Autoshow in the USA in amongst the many that are held that you see a more expressive BMW presence than in New York or Los Angeles. With three world premieres compared to LAs joint World Premiere with Tokyo for the BMW 4er Cabrio.

The NAIAS is a huge event not just for BMW , but the manufacturers attending and the city and people of Detroit.
Don't worry, people in LA just think the whole world revolves around them. Excited to see both at the show later this week!
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      01-13-2014, 09:20 AM   #130
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You should be able to take a seat , look at the engine etc.

They might even start letting journalists into the i8 now, but they might be keeping that for the press drives. I don't think the public will be allowed in the i8.
That is strange, they allowed public in the i8 at LA auto show!
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      01-13-2014, 09:22 AM   #131
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The wheels on the M4 seem to be gloss black, and due to the angles at which the photographs are taken, the reflections make them look polished.
I think people have previously said that the centers are indeed polished...i could be wrong
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      01-13-2014, 09:49 AM   #132
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