F80 M3 VBOX Acceleration Results: 4.2s 0-100kmh / 0-62mph

[swamp2]

Originally Posted by uae247

We need to tell us now about the stocks :-

Ha ha. I probably would be posting more here if I could. Keep the fun/testing safe when any others are nearby!

[seanq]

Originally Posted by Karmic Man

What's so hard about launching the car with DCT and mashing the accelerator afterwards?

If it takes the skill of an F1 driver to get to 11s than it is not really a 11s car for most owners. Who knows about the road conditions? May be it's actually a downward slope with strong winds behind the car.

I may get the M4 eventually but let's be realistic about the straight line performance of a 430hp,1500kg+/- car. It's no M5/M6 and may even be slower than the current C63AMG E507. Yes, you can brag that it has more than 430hp with 20hp-30hp hidden somewhere but somehow I don't think so.

So, what's your point?
Nobody said it was hard to launch the car, the folks are just comparing data while you seem to doubt it's capabilities yet say that you might get one yourself.

[Karmic Man]

Originally Posted by seanq

So, what's your point?
Nobody said it was hard to launch the car, the folks are just comparing data while you seem to doubt it's capabilities yet say that you might get one yourself.

What's your point? I am stating what I feel the car can or cannot do.

How does that stop me from looking at getting one

[mpower33]

hello

congrats for your new car ,,

can i know whats the number from 100 to 200 km/h + i wish i can see a race between an e60 m5 vs your m3

[gmd2003]

Originally Posted by Audio Fan

Where did you run these numbers?

By the way, we all know the 6 is a beast. We just want the 4 to be beastly as well.

I ran these in hot humid coastal SC not using LC and on a non prepared surface, so the conditions were actually worse than UAE 's. These motors handle the heat very well and both cars take off extremely well for high hp rwd . I mean they have the exact same differential and transmission , it makes sense that the car with more hp/weight would be faster . I don't understand why people don't get this . The lighter lower hp car can use more of its power at launch though so that's why we should see a drivers race to 60 , but after that or from a roll it's the car with a better power to weight that will be faster every time , especially when they have the exact same drivetrain

[ss134]

Originally Posted by john08135i

It must be nice to be rich... while here in the US we have to pay $4.50 per gallon for fuel.

Very cheap - you are lucky!!

[ss134]

Originally Posted by uae247

We need to tell us now about the stocks :-)

But you were on target

The car feels like it can do more with
A better launch
Better rpm-I can adjust the launch rpm using the cruise control stalk

11 seconds is possible.
I will try with the 1 foot roll out tonight
Lets see

Would be awesome to get VBOX results from your E90 and 1M on your VBOX on the same road and conditions....( tonight !!) this would give a great accurate insight into how much faster the f80 is.

Thanks again for the posts.

[hwelvaar]

Originally Posted by gmd2003

It's actually 118.9 mph My M6 CP did 0-130 mph in 12.x seconds and 8.19 60-130 mph stock so it's about 2 sec off my car in both respects . ( that's a lot , and puts to rest any is it faster than an M5/6 talk )

LOL at the worried M5/M6 owners...

I'm sure many speed runs, numbers and debates will follow.
Let's also not forget you have a CP. So let's wait for M3 CP

And last but not least: if you really want to compare cars, it should be done in identical conditions (including same place and same time), otherwise it's all just speculation.

And to higher speeds, bigger engines will always have an advantage. So don't worry about your money spent on the 4L TT. It's not wasted.

[gmd2003]

Originally Posted by hwelvaar

LOL at the worried M5/M6 owners...

I'm sure many speed runs, numbers and debates will follow.
Let's also not forget you have a CP. So let's wait for M3 CP

And last but not least: if you really want to compare cars, it should be done in identical conditions (including same place and same time), otherwise it's all just speculation.

And to higher speeds, bigger engines will always have an advantage. So don't worry about your money spent on the 4L TT. It's not wasted.

Not worried at all 8 mph trap speed, and 6 seconds 0-250 km/h can not be made up by any conditions . My DA was worse than his because of the high humidity here and higher temp actually as well . At higher speeds in cars with the same Coefficient of drag and drivetrains the car with the most power is faster period . The M3/4 has many advantages over the M5/6 but straight line acceleration, esp once rolling is not going to be one of them lol.

[z00m]

Great! now 100-200km/h time please

[gmd2003]

Originally Posted by z00m

Great! now 100-200km/h time please

It was 9.2 seconds 100-200 km/h, much faster than the E92 M3 or the 1M .

[JustChris]

Thanks UAE 247 appreciate the time for this, great results.

[uae247]

Originally Posted by gmd2003

Not worried at all 8 mph trap speed, and 6 seconds 0-250 km/h can not be made up by any conditions . My DA was worse than his because of the high humidity here and higher temp actually as well . At higher speeds in cars with the same Coefficient of drag and drivetrains the car with the most power is faster period . The M3/4 has many advantages over the M5/6 but straight line acceleration, esp once rolling is not going to be one of them lol.

Yeah
But
It's boring lol

So
M3 it is

And why worry
They are both BMWs and M models

Just get the car that suits your needs more. The M6 was better to look at than to drive compared to the M3 which is great to drive and look at, especially the hips.

[GOLFFRR]

very cool thanks for posting this up!

[gmd2003]

Originally Posted by uae247

Yeah
But
It's boring lol

So
M3 it is

And why worry
They are both BMWs and M models

Just get the car that suits your needs more. The M6 was better to look at than to drive compared to the M3 which is great to drive and look at, especially the hips.

The M6 has it's share of faults but boring isn't one of them lol . I think you are in the minority on that one . I'm sure the M3 is a more dynamic handling car and you prefer it but frankly calling a car with an identical drivetrain , differential and similar yet superior engine powerband as well as a better power to weight boring is silly.

[uae247]

Originally Posted by gmd2003

The M6 has it's share of faults but boring isn't one of them lol . I think you are in the minority on that one . I'm sure the M3 is a more dynamic handling car and you prefer it but frankly calling a car with an identical drivetrain , differential and similar yet superior engine powerband as well as a better power to weight boring is silly.

Well
Going straight is never the fun part
:-)
The moment you turn and feel that weight it just spoils it
Especially coming from an M3 and a 1M

[Sapper_M3]

Originally Posted by 335iRlz

I don't think BMW would be dumb enough to let the M4 get to be as fast as the M5 stock vs. stock, same way even the n54 wasn't compared to the s65.

...but isn't BMW dumb enough to do this with every new generation of M3 compared to the current M5/6 (which, at this point, has been out for a couple model years)?

I don't have the raw data on hand right now, so someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

[JoeFromPA]

What's up with the M6 comparison? Of course it's faster - it has nearly 50% more displacement along with it's boost. So what? It's a luxo-barge. Massively heavier, bigger body, longer wheelbase. It's like an Alpina B7 - great that it goes faster in a straight line, but if you are on this forum why would you spend your time promoting the straight line speed of such a land-yacht? It's a gorgeous, leather-swaddled rolling bordello - awesome. This is an M3/M4 forum - supposedly chassis, handling, braking, and steering are as important (though you wouldn't know it from the magazine racing on here).

...

On the VBox results. First off, they are great. However, as UAE himself has said, there's all sorts of variables here. The heat is one, the surface condition, the dip in the road at the end, the extra ~100 pounds in the car in gear (car seat, laptop, camera bag, tripod, gym bag). The fact it's a VBOX result.

There is a reason you want validated results from a calibrated testing system if you care about a few MPH and a few tenths of a second. While I don't believe the results are far off reality, there's alot of little things that are important.

I'm not a big 0-60 fan, but let me point out that usually a 1-foot rollout being INCLUDED in the testing will drop a 4.2 0-60 down to 3.9-4.0. That's just one example.

[Johnmd]

Originally Posted by JoeFromPA

What's up with the M6 comparison? Of course it's faster - it has nearly 50% more displacement along with it's boost. So what? It's a luxo-barge. Massively heavier, bigger body, longer wheelbase. It's like an Alpina B7 - great that it goes faster in a straight line, but if you are on this forum why would you spend your time promoting the straight line speed of such a land-yacht? It's a gorgeous, leather-swaddled rolling bordello - awesome. This is an M3/M4 forum - supposedly chassis, handling, braking, and steering are as important (though you wouldn't know it from the magazine racing on here).

...

On the VBox results. First off, they are great. However, as UAE himself has said, there's all sorts of variables here. The heat is one, the surface condition, the dip in the road at the end, the extra ~100 pounds in the car in gear (car seat, laptop, camera bag, tripod, gym bag). The fact it's a VBOX result.

There is a reason you want validated results from a calibrated testing system if you care about a few MPH and a few tenths of a second. While I don't believe the results are far off reality, there's alot of little things that are important.

I'm not a big 0-60 fan, but let me point out that usually a 1-foot rollout being INCLUDED in the testing will drop a 4.2 0-60 down to 3.9-4.0. That's just one example.

What's up is people making "claims" that its "just as fast" as the M6 for several months now, especially after BMW's published 0-1000m number.

And for many, MANY, and MANY people who never visit a race track once in their lifetime and never will, that straight line speed in day to day driving is what counts. All this "handling" and "drifting" is meaningless when you are driving from stop light to stop light or in freeway/highway conditions. M3 will only shine/take the lead in a race track.

It is natural to compare the cars.

[uae247]

Originally Posted by JoeFromPA

What's up with the M6 comparison? Of course it's faster - it has nearly 50% more displacement along with it's boost. So what? It's a luxo-barge. Massively heavier, bigger body, longer wheelbase. It's like an Alpina B7 - great that it goes faster in a straight line, but if you are on this forum why would you spend your time promoting the straight line speed of such a land-yacht? It's a gorgeous, leather-swaddled rolling bordello - awesome. This is an M3/M4 forum - supposedly chassis, handling, braking, and steering are as important (though you wouldn't know it from the magazine racing on here).

...

On the VBox results. First off, they are great. However, as UAE himself has said, there's all sorts of variables here. The heat is one, the surface condition, the dip in the road at the end, the extra ~100 pounds in the car in gear (car seat, laptop, camera bag, tripod, gym bag). The fact it's a VBOX result.

There is a reason you want validated results from a calibrated testing system if you care about a few MPH and a few tenths of a second. While I don't believe the results are far off reality, there's alot of little things that are important.

I'm not a big 0-60 fan, but let me point out that usually a 1-foot rollout being INCLUDED in the testing will drop a 4.2 0-60 down to 3.9-4.0. That's just one example.

Thanks
Guess we can take the M6 out of our conversation now

Will try different settings and the 1 foot rollout

[uae247]

Originally Posted by Johnmd

What's up is people making "claims" that its "just as fast" as the M6 for several months now, especially after BMW's published 0-1000m number.

And for many, MANY, and MANY people who never visit a race track once in their lifetime and never will, that straight line speed in day to day driving is what counts. All this "handling" and "drifting" is meaningless when you are driving from stop light to stop light or in freeway/highway conditions. M3 will only shine/take the lead in a race track.

It is natural to compare the cars.

Well
That's why I am not one of those many many people. And I think people who choose to buy an M3 would agree.

I drive on tracks
I drift
And I enjoy everything BUT traffic light drag races. Cause in here, if you want straight line speed, buy an AWD DCT Turbo car which will always take off but have no soul. I never liked the GTR or the 911 Turbo but love the GT2 (which will loose to a 911 Turbo with launch control and DCT)

My opinion
That's

[ASAP]

Originally Posted by Johnmd

What's up is people making "claims" that its "just as fast" as the M6 for several months now, especially after BMW's published 0-1000m number.

And for many, MANY, and MANY people who never visit a race track once in their lifetime and never will, that straight line speed in day to day driving is what counts. All this "handling" and "drifting" is meaningless when you are driving from stop light to stop light or in freeway/highway conditions. M3 will only shine/take the lead in a race track.

It is natural to compare the cars.

Correct, in fact barely 20% of m3 owners ever track their cars.

In fact, nearly all of the owners that I see are high income individuals that are generally older and NEVER push these cars at all.

The forum is a poor sampling of the M3 owner as most here are true enthusiasts.