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      02-14-2012, 10:56 AM   #89
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Hasnīt Scott quoted that there woundnīt be an CSL only an E92 with CRT-Package (with the CRT CRFP-Hood, etc. ... I donīt think it would possible to bring the CRT-seats in an Coupe, it seems like they are Sedan only(?)
There's no reason why those CRT seats shouldn't fit in a coupe if they already fit in the more cramped sedan. At any rate, whether this last E92M is called a CSL or a CRT Coupe is besides the point. The important note is that there will be a special edition car to commemorate the last year of the E92M as well as the 40th anniversary of BMW M as a MY13 model. No idea yet what will make it special, but a likely guess is that it will get the 4.4L S65 engine, shave a hundred pounds or so off of the regular E92M, and be meant primarily for street use, unlike the more track-focused GTS.
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      02-14-2012, 11:28 AM   #90
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Excuse me if I disagree with you ...

It has long haunted the value of "about minus 200 kg" through the area.
If I see now that a 335i F30 brings the scales at 1590 kg, 1415 kg then come quite close to the already cited frequently ran 200 kg less
A 440 pound saving over the E92M is unbelievable (both literally and figuratively), but would be amazing if true. It's highly unfortunate that any M car would be heavier than its non-M counterpart, as is the case with the E92M, F10M, and others.

I suppose weight savings can come from the use of materials like CFRP, fiberglass, non-CF plastic, and aluminum throughout the panels; ultra high-strength steel throughout the frame; an all-aluminum engine; carbon ceramic brakes; lightweight seats; less sound deadening; fewer luxury options; thinner glass; aluminum suspension components; forged wheels; and a titanium or inconel exhaust. Really, there's no reason why the tires and DCT transmission (6MT is exempt) shouldn't be the only items on the car heavier than their F3X counterparts.

All of a sudden, my interest in the F8X has been reignited.
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      02-14-2012, 11:44 AM   #91
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There's no reason why those CRT seats shouldn't fit in a coupe if they already fit in the more cramped sedan. At any rate, whether this last E92M is called a CSL or a CRT Coupe is besides the point. The important note is that there will be a special edition car to commemorate the last year of the E92M as well as the 40th anniversary of BMW M as a MY13 model. No idea yet what will make it special, but a likely guess is that it will get the 4.4L S65 engine, shave a hundred pounds or so off of the regular E92M, and be meant primarily for street use, unlike the more track-focused GTS.
If I look at pics of these CRT seats , I couldnīt see any folding option needed for an 4-seat coupe!
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If I look at pics of these CRT seats , I couldnīt see any folding option needed for an 4-seat coupe!
You mean you actually let people sit in the back of your coupe?

Point well taken. I'd be happy with the BMW Performance seats:

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