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      12-17-2016, 12:52 PM   #441
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Seriously Captain, you are definitely the most extreme fanboy troll I've come across in a long time
And broken record..........
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Seriously Captain, you are definitely the most extreme fanboy troll I've come across in a long time
I love how you added a smiley at the end. Only thing missing was "With all due respect" or "No offense intended."
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What ever it takes to get out some info, we all cant sit in the garage do excel sheet dok. as your selfe and try to tell the world aero is of no effect whatever the setting on GTS. Difference on you and me is I can relate to all these diffrent test of GTS in ways you never could. Reason I drive it on tracks.

You got 10.000 post and belive you know it all due to that, haha ..you funny.
Deep deep inside we know you also want a GTS...😂






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Seriously Captain, you are definitely the most extreme fanboy troll I've come across in a long time
What ever it takes to get out some info, we all cant sit in the garage do excel sheet dok. as your selfe and try to tell the world aero is of no effect whatever the setting on GTS. Difference on you and me is I can relate to all these diffrent test of GTS in ways you never could. Reason I drive it on tracks.

You got 10.000 post and belive you know it all due to that, haha ..you funny.
Deep deep inside we know you also want a GTS...��
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      12-18-2016, 06:50 AM   #445
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Sure, you must drive the car to fully understand whats happen. You sitt in the garage doing excel dok, thats what you do accually and by that you hardly could relate to all them tests as we who driven the car can!
So on that part We are not on the same level. On the other hand we agre that its the total everything as you mention that make GTS the GTS.

Still when no clu Clarkson drive a track Orienten GTS around a track in street mode where it give no accual aero at all, and also drive high street setting in chassie..well its not that strange he feel no GTS, its not. When ever you test these things for your self you will understand. Clarkson would as well if he bother to see to it that cars was set for track work.
Seriously Captain, you are definitely the most extreme fanboy troll I've come across in a long time
Yeah, and he depicts and characterizes every journalist who didn't really care for the performance of the car as "bad drivers who lack set-up experience", and he goes on these long tirades in an attempt to justify the car and his purchase. It's like telling the gun journalist who shoots for a living and has shot EVERYTHING (...and tested every scope, red dot, trigger assembly, etc.) under the sun for years/decades that they can't shoot and don't know how to dial/zero in optics and adjust for elevation and windage.
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Sedan_clown, where did I read that..
Oh well you guys need to focus on the god things about GTS. Fact still remain, there are plenty who get GTS to speed, and some dont. Yes, Clarkson is crap😂

No need to justify any thing. Just enlighten a guy like your selfe and some other small minded. You cant ignorera the facts, and now you see them.

I know you also think.. what the heck, same acceleration nr as 991 GT3, even GTS 137kg more pork to pull. Haha or auto bild accelerate it even faster than 991 GT3. Mr sedan, GTS is big Bang considerig the small dollars It cost new. You study them pics whit facts I posted and come on over the the other side, we like it. Its a solid preformer thinking of its low new price.

Then again it not easy for you to all of a Sudden change you mind, consedering you are one of the Clarkson fanboys...and he did not like it

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Sedan_clown, where did I read that..
Oh well you guys need to focus on the god things about GTS. Fact still remain, there are plenty who get GTS to speed, and some dont. Yes, Clarkson is crap😂

No need to justify any thing. Just enlighten a guy like your selfe and some other small minded. You cant ignorera the facts, and now you see them.

I know you also think.. what the heck, same acceleration nr as 991 GT3, even GTS 137kg more pork to pull. Haha or auto bild accelerate it even faster than 991 GT3. Mr sedan, GTS is big Bang considerig the small dollars It cost new. You study them pics whit facts I posted and come on over the the other side, we like it. Its a solid preformer thinking of its low new price.

Then again it not easy for you to all of a Sudden change you mind, consedering you are one of the Clarkson fanboys...and he did not like it
You are a real 'tard! Lol!
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      12-18-2016, 10:29 AM   #448
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This thread has gotten ridiculous!!!
I was wrong. This thread has gotten ridiculouser
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      12-18-2016, 01:51 PM   #449
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I was wrong. This thread has gotten ridiculouser
Time to bring in "The American"...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nL1LrmT5RSo
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Based on the Sachsenring and Hockenheim tests Captain places so much faith in, it seems the obvious choice is the Corvette Z06. A vastly superior sports car to the M4 GTS for at least $40,000 cheaper.

Looks like M4 GTS can even beat the OLD Z06 around the Nurburging. Those are under $50,000 right now.
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      12-18-2016, 02:52 PM   #451
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i really don't get why anyone would ever buy the m4 GTS. it has almost zero sex appeal to people outside the uber bmw community. i could absolutely never justify paying ( EVEN THE BASE MSRP) for this thing over something like a 997 gt3, lightly used 911 turbo S, Ferrari 360, or even an m4 and 50 grand in my pocket.
this so true I agree
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When I turned down my allocation 10 mos ago, I was LITERALLY taking a dump at the Viceroy Snowmass when they called and had 1 hour to decide if I was going to pull the trigger on the GTS. Having seen the car and its specs, I decided to pass and let someone else have my allocation. After seeing this thread, I know I made the right decision! What a great miss!

Of course everyone will come on and say how much money they flipped their car for and how much their car is worth and how much money they are going to make in a few years but I'm glad I dodged this bullet. What a turd!

Weren't CCBs a complete waste of money until they were put on the almighty GTS!
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Of course he doesn't. Even BMW wouldn't even try to defend this car.
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i really don't get why anyone would ever buy the m4 GTS. it has almost zero sex appeal to people outside the uber bmw community. i could absolutely never justify paying ( EVEN THE BASE MSRP) for this thing over something like a 997 gt3, lightly used 911 turbo S, Ferrari 360, or even an m4 and 50 grand in my pocket.
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When I turned down my allocation 10 mos ago, I was LITERALLY taking a dump at the Viceroy Snowmass when they called and had 1 hour to decide if I was going to pull the trigger on the GTS. Having seen the car and its specs, I decided to pass and let someone else have my allocation. After seeing this thread, I know I made the right decision! What a great miss!

Of course everyone will come on and say how much money they flipped their car for and how much their car is worth and how much money they are going to make in a few years but I'm glad I dodged this bullet. What a turd!

Weren't CCBs a complete waste of money until they were put on the almighty GTS!
Speaking of taking a dump, it's impressive how many users came into this thread seemingly to do nothing but take a dump on the GTS.
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Mr sedan, GTS is big Bang considerig the small dollars It cost new. You study them pics whit facts I posted and come on over the the other side, we like it. Its a solid preformer thinking of its low new price.
Being a sedan is only a valid excuse/trade off when you have a functional back seat

As it stands, it has no back seat and the C6 Z06 trunk has 30% move volume (17 cubic feet for the f30, 22.4 for the C6)
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Speaking of taking a dump, it's impressive how many users came into this thread seemingly to do nothing but take a dump on the GTS.
I went to the trouble to convince my dealer to beg for an voucher for me, but when I saw the orange wheels and awesomeness of the 911R and 570S, which I was also cross shopping and alo had allocations for, I said no thanks.

I find it so hard to take the comments posted here seriously. I also find it really hard not to be defensive....
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I went to the trouble to convince my dealer to beg for an voucher for me, but when I saw the orange wheels and awesomeness of the 911R and 570S, which I was also cross shopping and alo had allocations for, I said no thanks.

I find it so hard to take the comments posted here seriously. I also find it really hard not to be defensive....
So did you get a sold out 911r?
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So did you get a sold out 911r?
You mean satirically....as noted in my sarcastic post? No, if I was able to get my hands on a 911R for I price I consider to be not reckless, I would be posting smug shots over on rennlist and not desperately trying to deal with my cognitive dissonance here. I still have a GTS coming...though I'm starting to wonder if the boat sank.
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Based on the Sachsenring and Hockenheim tests Captain places so much faith in, it seems the obvious choice is the Corvette Z06. A vastly superior sports car to the M4 GTS for at least $40,000 cheaper.

Looks like M4 GTS can even beat the OLD Z06 around the Nurburging. Those are under $50,000 right now.
You only miss on the fact that the build quality, design and interior finishing is playmobil like... You make it sound like laptimes are the sole thing to care about, whereas that is far from the case for most people buying this type of cars. It's about the general experience. And I can tell you first hand that the gts is one damn experience :-) Whatever Clarkson tells you. It's spot on for a certain crowd, hits every button for me. As we all know, in this type of car on a trackday, laptimes depend mostly about the driver, not the car. And I would prefer to be 1" slower in the GTS to being fastest in a ZO6 :-)
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So did you get a sold out 911r?
You mean satirically....as noted in my sarcastic post? No, if I was able to get my hands on a 911R for I price I consider to be not reckless, I would be posting smug shots over on rennlist and not desperately trying to deal with my cognitive dissonance here. I still have a GTS coming...though I'm starting to wonder if the boat sank.
No worries, you'll adore it!
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. Mr sedan, GTS is big Bang considerig the small dollars It cost new.
Yet the z06, GT350r and even the Corvette grand-sport destroy the GTS on a track but are drive-able on the street and cost half of what a GTS Costs
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Yet the z06, GT350r and even the Corvette grand-sport destroy the GTS on a track but are drive-able on the street and cost half of what a GTS Costs
Does anyone have a new argument to make? You can say that about most cars that cost over 100K.

Talk to Z06 owners who tried to track their cars...most got rid of the Z06 real fast due to overheating issues. GT350r is about the same speed as the GTS and motor is to die for, but they went for well above MSRP as well (can't wait to see what they ask for the race model). Grand Sport is humiliating virtually all super cars at the moment, not just the GTS. Why buy a mclaren 570s when you can go faster in a grand sport....why buy a NSX, why buy a GT3RS, why buy a Huracan.....
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Yet the z06, GT350r and even the Corvette grand-sport destroy the GTS on a track but are drive-able on the street and cost half of what a GTS Costs
Does anyone have a new argument to make? You can say that about most cars that cost over 100K.

Talk to Z06 owners who tried to track their cars...most got rid of the Z06 real fast due to overheating issues. GT350r is about the same speed as the GTS and motor is to die for, but they went for well above MSRP as well (can't wait to see what they ask for the race model). Grand Sport is humiliating virtually all super cars at the moment, not just the GTS. Why buy a mclaren 570s when you can go faster in a grand sport....why buy a NSX, why buy a GT3RS, why buy a Huracan.....
Exactly!
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