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      02-10-2023, 08:18 AM   #23
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Great numbers! Does this turbo have a internal wastegate? Or did you run an external one? And if so, does it dump back into the downpipe or separately?
Internal WG that dumps back into the downpipe..
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Internal WG that dumps back into the downpipe..
Thanks! And there were no issues with boost creep or wastegate control?

Once my F80 no longer does DD duties, I'd love to do this setup. Did your tuner say anything about how much better IAT's or timing/knock was with your water injection compared to other S55's he's tuned on pump gas?
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Thanks! And there were no issues with boost creep or wastegate control?

Once my F80 no longer does DD duties, I'd love to do this setup. Did your tuner say anything about how much better IAT's or timing/knock was with your water injection compared to other S55's he's tuned on pump gas?
No issues at all with boost creep or WG control.

No, he didn't mention anything anything about IATs or timing/knock with the oem water injection. There were 0 concerns with any of that.
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Just finished up the single turbo build on my M4 GTS!

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E50 vs 93 dyno chart below..

GTS keeps factory water injection!

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Is there any way I can get this same turbo but for a top mount kit? I checked speed tech and 4n but speed tech only offers garret and 4n only opts for botttom mount
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Is there any way I can get this same turbo but for a top mount kit? I checked speed tech and 4n but speed tech only offers garret and 4n only opts for bottom mount
I don't know...you will need to find a shop that makes a manifold for a top mount turbo or build a custom manifold.
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Is there any way I can get this same turbo but for a top mount kit? I checked speed tech and 4n but speed tech only offers garret and 4n only opts for botttom mount
You could try reaching out to Jeff at Speedtech and ask him what potential fitment issues he forsees using this turbo with his kit. There's a possibility that this turbo may work with some mods, or maybe not. Doesn't hurt to ask
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You could try reaching out to Jeff at Speedtech and ask him what potential fitment issues he forsees using this turbo with his kit. There's a possibility that this turbo may work with some mods, or maybe not. Doesn't hurt to ask
Efr is longer than the Garret and need a mount for the wastegate actuator which is not part of the speed tech design.
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Nice numbers and build. I'm sure this thing feels like a rocket ship.
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Efr is longer than the Garret and need a mount for the wastegate actuator which is not part of the speed tech design.
EFR is longer, but you can get an external gate version to work with the speedtech external gate manifold. That's what I did Externally gated EFR 8374 (same physical size as 8474)
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