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      02-03-2017, 08:00 PM   #23
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No, it won't go into park if you shift to neutral first.

Get to know your DCT, and don't be overly paranoid about what could go wrong, especially when the odd is so small. We should not ask for things to be at our fingertip when we don't really have an immediate need for it.

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Lol. I have a 6MT so no issues for me.

The main reason I am chiming in on this thread is to try and understand the DCT. When I did my test drive at one of the ultimate driving events they put me in a DCT. I was thoroughly confused as to its operation which further solidified my choice to go with the 6MT.

I guess my main point in all of this is that you have to learn the transmission in order to use it; which seems silly. Since automated transmissions have been around for a long time their operation is well understood by most drivers. (Yes, I know, the DCT is a manual but it is automated and presents more as an automatic than a true manual transmission to the user.) Where is the need to change the user interface from the normal auto controls? Especially when the changes result in confusion as to how best to operate the vehicle and can result in the transmission not engaging park. A simple Park button seems like a straightforward addition.
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      02-05-2017, 08:22 AM   #24
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Lol. I have a 6MT so no issues for me.

The main reason I am chiming in on this thread is to try and understand the DCT. When I did my test drive at one of the ultimate driving events they put me in a DCT. I was thoroughly confused as to its operation which further solidified my choice to go with the 6MT.

I guess my main point in all of this is that you have to learn the transmission in order to use it; which seems silly. Since automated transmissions have been around for a long time their operation is well understood by most drivers. (Yes, I know, the DCT is a manual but it is automated and presents more as an automatic than a true manual transmission to the user.) Where is the need to change the user interface from the normal auto controls? Especially when the changes result in confusion as to how best to operate the vehicle and can result in the transmission not engaging park. A simple Park button seems like a straightforward addition.
Again, why add another button when none is needed ?
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      02-06-2017, 12:32 AM   #25
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      02-16-2017, 08:58 PM   #26
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With the car in park, do you have to pull the hand brake? Can the car pop out of park and roll?
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      02-17-2017, 10:13 AM   #27
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With the car in park, do you have to pull the hand brake? Can the car pop out of park and roll?
The likely hood of a DCT popping out of park is rare. The DCT uses a pin to secure the Park mode.

Using the hand brake is just good practice. All my previous cars have been manual, and just out of habit I still pull the hand brake on my DCT before shutting down the car.

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      02-17-2017, 11:02 AM   #28
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Can i get a ruling here, if I want to get out of the car with my engine running, just pull up on the brake in 'N' or 'D' and it is secure from rolling? I've done this a number of times, but I always look back to check on the car, lol.
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Can i get a ruling here, if I want to get out of the car with my engine running, just pull up on the brake in 'N' or 'D' and it is secure from rolling? I've done this a number of times, but I always look back to check on the car, lol.
I would not leave it in D that's for sure. Put it in N and pull the hand brake. I say not to leave it in D because if you get back into the car and even tap the gas by mistake the car is going to lurch.

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The likely hood of a DCT popping out of park is rare, I believe the DCT uses a pin to secure the Park mode (someone who knows more can chime in here) whatever mechanism is used to Park being mechanical has the possibility to fail.

Using the hand brake is just good practice. All my previous cars have been manual and just out of habit I still pull the hand brake on my DCT before shutting down the car.
Thank you. Trying to learn the DCT. It's my first BMW.
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Thank you. Trying to learn the DCT. It's my first BMW.
NP. Have you owned or driven a manual transmission car before? If so a lot of the same practices and principles apply to the DCT. It's more akin to a manual as opposed to a traditional torque converter automatic transmission.
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Thank you. Trying to learn the DCT. It's my first BMW.
You won't be able to leave it in D. The gear box will automatically pop from D to N, the second you open the door.

Suggest you always pull the hand brake, engine running or not. It is just a good habit.
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You won't be able to leave it in D. The gear box will automatically pop from D to N, the second you open the door.

Suggest you always pull the hand brake, engine running or not. It is just a good habit.
I didn't know about it automatically going into N - thanks for that. It's a use case I have never tried as I have always put the car into N when getting out while keeping it running. I guess it goes back to my previous manual experience.
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      02-17-2017, 02:50 PM   #34
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Can someone please help me, lol?

What do I do to make sure car is secure when I go to check the mail? I don't want it to start rolling when I exit the car. Been stressed about it all this time. Even read the manual and still not sure.
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      02-17-2017, 03:55 PM   #35
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Can someone please help me, lol?

What do I do to make sure car is secure when I go to check mail? I don't want it to start rolling when I exit the car. Been stressed about it all this time. Even read the manual and still not sure.
LOL. Keeping the car running the whole time right? Pull up to mailbox, pull hand brake, put car in N, get out to check mail.
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Can someone please help me, lol?

What do I do to make sure car is secure when I go to check mail? I don't want it to start rolling when I exit the car. Been stressed about it all this time. Even read the manual and still not sure.
Just pull the hand brake, which is also called parking brake, for that reason. You'll get an indicator light in the cluster as well.

If the slope is too severe, then shut the engine off to put the gear into P, in addition to the hand brake.
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Just pull the hand brake, which is also called parking brake, for that reason. You'll get an indicator light in the cluster as well.

If the slope is too severe, then shut the engine off to put the gear into P, in addition to the hand brake.
Except then the F$^*@NG car then yells at you to secure the vehicle against rolling! How am I supposed to secure the vehicle against rolling if I can't put it in park without shutting it off?

So then next question is, then does it make sense to treat those situations like a manual? If the nose is facing downhill, pull the brake and keep the car in reverse; or if uphill put the car in 1, and pull the hand brake?
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      04-08-2017, 09:36 PM   #38
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Except then the F$^*@NG car then yells at you to secure the vehicle against rolling!
Mine never has when the parking brake is engaged.

In a normal scenario (come to a stop, depress the Stop button to turn off the engine), the car switches into "Park", which is to say it engages the parking pawl.

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How am I supposed to secure the vehicle against rolling if I can't put it in park without shutting it off?
If, for some reason, you need to have your engine running and secure the car against rolling, use your parking brake. Do you really have good reasons for doing that as opposed to going ahead and turning off your engine?

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So then next question is, then does it make sense to treat those situations like a manual?
Insofar as it is possible, yes.

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If the nose is facing downhill, pull the brake and keep the car in reverse; or if uphill put the car in 1, and pull the hand brake?
With the engine running? With a manual, you obviously cannot leave the car in gear with the engine running, and the same is true for a DCT. You just engage the parking brake as I say above.

With the engine stopped? First, with a true manual, it makes no difference which "direction" the car would be moving in terms of putting it in gear to keep it from rolling. All that matters is that it's in gear so rolling would require the gears in the transmission to turn and the pistons in the engine to move. Now, with a DCT, you don't have that option - the clutches automatically go to open when the car is turned off. So, you rely on the parking pawl to hold the car instead.
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I'll chime in here. I had a 2011 335is DCT which I believe was the same DCT in the e9x M3. That car had a park button on the shifter. It took a little getting used to for me with the F82 DCT not having a physical park button. I have a very long steep driveway so I stop at the bottom to get the mail and not having a park button is kinda of annoying. Granted I just pull the e break (still in drive mode) and get out but it would have been nicer to have that park button. The anti roll message that pops up still kinda freaks me out like the car is gonna roll away. 1st world problems. Love our cars!
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How to put in park?

Likely a silly question - just completed ED with 2018 M3 with DCT. Tracked it at Nurbergring, wanted to let it cool down, i.e. leave engine running but was on a slight hill. Did not want to use parking brake as that is big no - no after abusing them on the track. Anyway could not figure out how to keep car from rolling and engine running and not use hand brake.
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Likely a silly question - just completed ED with 2018 M3 with DCT. Tracked it at Nurbergring, wanted to let it cool down, i.e. leave engine running but was on a slight hill. Did not want to use parking brake as that is big no - no after abusing them on the track. Anyway could not figure out how to keep car from rolling and engine running and not use hand brake.
You can't, it's just like an MT: hand brake, foot brake, or shut off the car
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open door, shove foot under front driver side tire.

Y is the parking brake a no?
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open door, shove foot under front driver side tire.

Y is the parking brake a no?
Setting a parking brake on hot rotors is never a good idea.

OP: cycle ignition to remain in park, or invest in a set of wheel chocks for the track.
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OP: cycle ignition to remain in park, or invest in a set of wheel chocks for the track.
ah, right, duh! Sorry OP
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