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      02-03-2017, 04:20 PM   #23
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Can you describe the scenario that you would need to do that? Is that a frequent occurrence?

When absolutely needed, it can be done by a tech, if needed. But that requires the tech to get underneath the car to disengage the parking pawl.
When the engine quits for whatever reason and you need to have the car towed...

e.g http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1339927
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When the engine quits for whatever reason and you need to have the car towed...

e.g http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1339927
Oh, that! It happens like once in a blue moon

Like I said in that thread, even in that rare occasion when cooler is pierced, one can still switch to N before shutting the engine off, then wait for the tow. No problem there.
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      02-03-2017, 06:29 PM   #26
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Oh, that! It happens like once in a blue moon

Like I said in that thread, even in that rare occasion when cooler is pierced, one can still switch to N before shutting the engine off, then wait for the tow. No problem there.
Well you asked for an example, that it a prime one. What if the engine will not turn over?

Admittedly, I do not know 100% but aren't people saying in this thread that the transmission will go into park when you shut the engine off, no?
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Well you asked for an example, that it a prime one. What if the engine will not turn over?

Admittedly, I do not know 100% but aren't people saying in this thread that the transmission will go into park when you shut the engine off, no?
No, it won't go into park if you shift to neutral first.

Get to know your DCT, and don't be overly paranoid about what could go wrong, especially when the odd is so small. We should not ask for things to be at our fingertip when we don't really have an immediate need for it.

M3 is a beautiful car to enjoy. Cheers!
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      02-03-2017, 08:00 PM   #28
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No, it won't go into park if you shift to neutral first.

Get to know your DCT, and don't be overly paranoid about what could go wrong, especially when the odd is so small. We should not ask for things to be at our fingertip when we don't really have an immediate need for it.

M3 is a beautiful car to enjoy. Cheers!
Lol. I have a 6MT so no issues for me.

The main reason I am chiming in on this thread is to try and understand the DCT. When I did my test drive at one of the ultimate driving events they put me in a DCT. I was thoroughly confused as to its operation which further solidified my choice to go with the 6MT.

I guess my main point in all of this is that you have to learn the transmission in order to use it; which seems silly. Since automated transmissions have been around for a long time their operation is well understood by most drivers. (Yes, I know, the DCT is a manual but it is automated and presents more as an automatic than a true manual transmission to the user.) Where is the need to change the user interface from the normal auto controls? Especially when the changes result in confusion as to how best to operate the vehicle and can result in the transmission not engaging park. A simple Park button seems like a straightforward addition.
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Lol. I have a 6MT so no issues for me.

The main reason I am chiming in on this thread is to try and understand the DCT. When I did my test drive at one of the ultimate driving events they put me in a DCT. I was thoroughly confused as to its operation which further solidified my choice to go with the 6MT.

I guess my main point in all of this is that you have to learn the transmission in order to use it; which seems silly. Since automated transmissions have been around for a long time their operation is well understood by most drivers. (Yes, I know, the DCT is a manual but it is automated and presents more as an automatic than a true manual transmission to the user.) Where is the need to change the user interface from the normal auto controls? Especially when the changes result in confusion as to how best to operate the vehicle and can result in the transmission not engaging park. A simple Park button seems like a straightforward addition.
Again, why add another button when none is needed ?
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      02-16-2017, 08:58 PM   #31
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if you shut the car off in gear do you have to pull the hand brake? can the car pop out of gear and roll?
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if you shut the car off in gear do you have to pull the hand brake? can the car pop out of gear and roll?
The likely hood of a DCT popping out of park is rare, I believe the DCT uses a pin to secure the Park mode (someone who knows more can chime in here) whatever mechanism is used to Park being mechanical has the possibility to fail.

Using the hand brake is just good practice. All my previous cars have been manual and just out of habit I still pull the hand brake on my DCT before shutting down the car.

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      02-17-2017, 11:02 AM   #33
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Can i get a ruling here, if I want to get out of the car with my engine running, just pull up on the brake in 'N' or 'D' and it is secure from rolling? I've done this a number of times, but I always look back to check on the car, lol.
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Can i get a ruling here, if I want to get out of the car with my engine running, just pull up on the brake in 'N' or 'D' and it is secure from rolling? I've done this a number of times, but I always look back to check on the car, lol.
I would not leave it in D that's for sure. Put it in N and pull the hand brake. I say not to leave it in D because if you get back into the car and even tap the gas by mistake the car is going to lurch.

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The likely hood of a DCT popping out of park is rare, I believe the DCT uses a pin to secure the Park mode (someone who knows more can chime in here) whatever mechanism is used to Park being mechanical has the possibility to fail.

Using the hand brake is just good practice. All my previous cars have been manual and just out of habit I still pull the hand brake on my DCT before shutting down the car.
Thank you. Trying to learn the DCT. It's my first BMW.
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Thank you. Trying to learn the DCT. It's my first BMW.
Np, have you owned or driven a manual transmission car before? If so alot of the same practices and principles apply to the DCT. It's more akin to a manual as opposed to a traditional torque converter automatic transmission.
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Thank you. Trying to learn the DCT. It's my first BMW.
You won't be able to leave it in D. The gear box will automatically pop from D to N, the second you open the door.

Suggest you always pull the band break, engine running or not. It is just a good habit.
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You won't be able to leave it in D. The gear box will automatically pop from D to N, the second you open the door.

Suggest you always pull the band break, engine running or not. It is just a good habit.
I didn't know about it automatically going into N - Thanks for that. It's a use case I have never tried as I have always put the car into N if getting out while keeping it running. I guess it goes back to my previous manual experience.
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Can someone please help me lol

What do I do to make sure car is Parked when I go to check mail? I don't want it to start rolling when I exit the car. Been stressed about it all this time. Even read the manual and still not sure.
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Can someone please help me lol

What do I do to make sure car is Parked when I go to check mail? I don't want it to start rolling when I exit the car. Been stressed about it all this time. Even read the manual and still not sure.
LOL - keeping the car running the whole time right? Pull up to mailbox, pull hand brake, put car in N, get out to check mail.
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Can someone please help me lol

What do I do to make sure car is Parked when I go to check mail? I don't want it to start rolling when I exit the car. Been stressed about it all this time. Even read the manual and still not sure.
Just pull the hand break, which is also called parking break, for that reason. You'll get an indicator light in the cluster as well.

If the slope is too severe, then shut the engine off to put the gear into P, in addition to the hand break.
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Just pull the hand break, which is also called parking break, for that reason. You'll get an indicator light in the cluster as well.

If the slope is too severe, then shut the engine off to put the gear into P, in addition to the hand break.

I really have to laugh when someone posts a image with directions on using the parking BRAKE with "parking BRAKE" mentioned twice, yet misspells the word THREE TIMES in their post.
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I really have to laugh when someone posts a image with directions on using the parking BRAKE with "parking BRAKE" mentioned twice, yet misspells the word THREE TIMES in their post.
Sorry about the spelling. Did you not get what I said?

I guess your second language is better than mine.
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I really have to laugh when someone posts a image with directions on using the parking BRAKE with "parking]BRAKE" mentioned twice, yet misspells the word THREE TIMES in their post.
Since we are on the language subject, shouldn't it be "...someone posts ...... in his post" to be grammatically correct?

But on second thought, I'll give you a break. Or should I have said, "I'll give you a brake"?

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